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Author Topic:   Windows 3 described in the Bible
Melchior
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Message 13 of 90 (115717)
06-16-2004 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Eddy Pengelly
06-16-2004 5:02 AM


Eddy Pengelly writes:
Does it take 16 floppy discs to load the software for a 386 VGA computer with a double-speed CD-Rom Drive and a Sound Card to run the three mentioned CD-Roms?
Yes !
Windows 3.1 takes 6 floppy discs.
Sound drivers takes 1 floppy disc.
CD-Rom drivers *may* be required, takes 1 floppy disc.
If you stretch this a bit, and use 5.25" 720kb discs, it comes out at 12+1+1=14.
Could you please explain your reasoning for the number 16?

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Melchior
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Message 19 of 90 (116459)
06-18-2004 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Eddy Pengelly
06-18-2004 9:34 AM


Re: Windows for WorkGroups
Graphics disc? Why would you need graphics to setup Windows?
You do realise that most of those discs aren't actually needed, right? Why would you install DOS if you are just planning to use Windows? Just a bootdisc would do just as well.
This sounds suspiciously like just adding discs until you reach the specific number you want.

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Melchior
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Message 21 of 90 (116523)
06-18-2004 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by berberry
06-18-2004 2:15 PM


Re: Windows for WorkGroups
Patience of Job? Most of what's on the DOS discs are just small programs that aren't actually needed. Most people install(ed) them even if they had no idea of what they did, and never ever used 95% of them.
I am going to admit you'd probably (especially if you picked up an old computer without having used one before) include DOS, but that list still seems to be picked in order to match a number, and not based on what is actually needed.

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Melchior
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Message 23 of 90 (116579)
06-18-2004 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Eddy Pengelly
06-18-2004 6:50 PM


Ah, so you looked up a real example. Well, I'll admit to that probably being the best course of action.
I am puzzled by the graphics drivers, though. There is no need for graphics drivers on those computers, otherwise you wouldn't be able to even start the computer for the first time (you wouldn't be able to see what you were doing). I don't think it was until SVGA was introduced that you needed additional files, and that was during the late 486 'era'.
However, if you did look up a completely random computer after getting the number 16 to double-check it, I'd say it was a coincidence you arrived at the same number, seeing as computers came with anything from zero to 20+ discs (preinstalled OS, various drivers, various tools, various demo programs, various games, anti-virus discs, recovery discs... Could amount to basically any number).
Also, I need clarification on something. Which OS was used? You started with 3 in the topic, then 3.1 in the early posts, and now you've moved to 3.11. They all take different amounts of discs, you know (4 vs 6 vs 8).
This message has been edited by Melchior, 06-18-2004 07:51 PM

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Melchior
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Message 25 of 90 (116584)
06-18-2004 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by berberry
06-18-2004 9:16 PM


Sorry, my bad. I checked up on the requirements and such on the program. It does indeed require SVGA. It was released in -95, which is sort of late for 386's (You could just as well buy a Pentium at that time). Since it uses 256 colours at 640x480, you do need graphical drivers if you are using Windows 3.1/3.11. I wasn't actually aware that 386's were fitted with SVGA-compatible graphics cards in the first place.
Still, why buy a 386 desktop computer plus a monitor and a portable generator to supply them with power if you can just as well grab a faster Pentium laptop with everything pre-installed?

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Melchior
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Message 26 of 90 (116588)
06-18-2004 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Eddy Pengelly
06-11-2004 9:23 AM


By the way...
The program is in English, right?
Why would you want to show a specificprogram to a group of people who don't understand any of it? If he actually took a detour to -95 he must have had a purpose with it?

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Melchior
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Message 28 of 90 (116600)
06-18-2004 11:30 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by berberry
06-18-2004 10:36 PM


The program "Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean" was published in 1995.
Hence, the time traveler would visit 1995 or slightly later and have access to the computer technology for sale at that time.

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