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The Whole Jesus Thing

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CK
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Message 43 of 286 (150312)
10-16-2004 3:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 42 by mike the wiz
10-16-2004 3:16 PM

Re: The Whole Jesus Thing
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The commandment "Do no murder" is aimed at humans, unless you think you can get a lion to read and write.
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But if I managed to train a monkey to read? would it then gain a monkey-soul ? because surely you need a soul to sin?
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Message 57 of 286 (155363)
11-03-2004 4:48 AM 		Reply to: Message 56 by EasyPriest
11-03-2004 2:39 AM

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it makes sense in the context of the whole thing. Let me try to sum it all up...God made a universe with a set of rules - he had to create it in that way because of his nature as God. Humans broke the rules, so God created a loophole (Jesus) which allowed him to prevent us from being punished.
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This makes even less sense -
a) God is bounded by the physical laws of the universe (and therefore can't be god)
b) God had to look for a loophole? I thought God could see the start,middle and end? Why does he not built this in from the start
c) Prevents us from being punished? remind me again - who created the punishment?
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11-03-2004 4:49 AM 		Reply to: Message 56 by EasyPriest
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This assumes that God is bloodthirsty, which can't be shown.
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Sure it can or do you think it's right to send bears to rip small children to pieces?
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Message 62 of 286 (155481)
11-03-2004 1:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 61 by cctman
11-03-2004 1:23 PM

First things first - Paragraphs are our friends!
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actually I find that most of the people here that discuss understand very little about apologetics and the history of the church.
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If I had a dollar for every christian who shows up and makes that claim, I would be a very rich man. This is the general way of things:
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1) A member of the faithful shows up - makes this claim.
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2) Member quickly finds out that this is not true - finds that member have a very very strong understanding of the bible.
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3) Member retreats after his claims are shredded.
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Let's see if you can do any better.
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11-03-2004 1:33 PM 		Reply to: Message 62 by CK
11-03-2004 1:29 PM

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Heck we even murdered his own son and he still didn't disown us.
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But the son was God wasn't he? And God knows all doesn't he, so he would know what would happen?
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11-03-2004 1:52 PM 		Reply to: Message 65 by cctman
11-03-2004 1:41 PM

not at all it was a rhetorical question.
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