Exodus, Merneptah stela and israelites

actually, the whole first part of the book is true... right up to where he meets the norsemen. the rest is beowulf.

why don't you reply to the person who is talking to you?also, i'm unconvinced by your purported proof.

no, i wasn't talking to you. i was replying to a comment someone else made about eaters of the dead.and all parts. i refuse to believe mythical tales which defend the right of a nation based solely on religion which undermines democratic laws by importing more members of that religion to dillute the vote of minorities to exist.

where exactly in between a theocratic oligarchy and a theocratic absolute monarchy did you read democracy? a nation of people with different nationalities and skin tones and languages and cultures and traditions? i appreciate the desire for continued auto-religious isolationism, but i'm really unimpressed with their claim to a land that they claim to have stolen through hundreds of years of wars of attrition and genocide. if we were really interested in nationhood, we'd give up american lands to return it to the natives who owned it first and to the american blacks who seem to want to isolate themselves, too, if atlanta is any demonstration. not to mention the greater germanic nation, the scottish nation, the tibetan nation, should i go on? you mean like having to have special papers to work and live in the nation of your birth and where you own property, because you were born in the wrong church? or having your food, water, and electricity rationed because you've been pushed out of your home to areas that are little more than bombed-out refugee camps, again because while you were born in this land as a citizen, you were born to the wrong faith? or having less of a vote in the government or having no vote over your capital city or not being able to go to certain places in your homeland because you don't have that fancy little mitochondrion? or being beaten up on the public buses because you don't follow religious dress codes. if you knew anything about israel, you wouldn't even begin to suggest that minorities there are protected by the laws. bullshit. the rights of all are protected providing a proper vote to all. nothing about being a minority ensures a given vote nor the exclusion from the system, unless your percentage is continually diluted and your rights are continually restricted by a government that wants nothing more than to remove you from the land where you were born.at any rate. according to their own history, the people who became the jews migrated from iraq; sought shelter from a famine in a foreign land; left that land ransacking its treasure and causing a massacre of its troops by getting them lost and drowned through impressive millitary strategy; took over a huge area through attrition, pillaging, and genocide; and once they had built a nation, turned on their own people declaring that they worshiped wrongly, weren't jewish enough and then perpetrated further acts of horror and genocide on their own people. i'm unimpressed with their claims to the land. i've no issue with the country as it exists now, but i do hold great contempt for their government policies and the way they treat people, especially considering that they, of all peoples, should know better than to mistreat people based on the circumstances of their birth.

your beloved old testament says that abraham came from ur. ur is in iraq. the old testament says that when the jews left, they took treasure from the egyptians. there's no evidence in egypt that they utilized slave labor. the buildings in egypt in particular from that time period are clearly built by skilled labor, not unskilled slaves. what's this about egypt instigating cannan? that's not even a proper sentence. and just because the egyptians killed israelite babies doesn't excuse the israelites from their genocides against the hittites, the amorites, the cannanites, the perizzites, the hivites, the jebusites and then their own tribe of benjamin before turning on the northern kingdom. what are these wrongs of cannan? the bible doesn't even mention any other than being in the way or "pagans". have you read the bible? hell, it's not even that many books of it. just exodus and joshua would do. what does tasmania have to do with anything? there were jews in tasmania? all i know about tasmania is that the native population was completely annihilated by the brits (or post-brits). i think pakistan is an equally unfounded point in this discussion. and poland. well, in 1335 king kazimierz wielki opened poland to the jews which were being expelled from the rest of europe and guaranteed their freedoms. shortly into the 1400s, the austrians were responsible for pograms against the jews and there were some issues post-wwi, but they were limited in scope. the real oppression of jews came with the german invasion in 1939. btw, the ghettos were built by the jews by choice because they wanted to live in separate religious communities. the germans forced more people into the ghettos and made them the center of great oppression, but did not build them or initiate jewish indwelling.they have as much of a right to exist and pursue their own goals as anyone else as long as their pleasure does not infringe on others. but to deny that they are just as flawed as the rest of humanity is beyond foolish, into the territory of dangerous. because to deny that they have the same penchant for nationalism and racism as the rest of us is to further endanger a huge population of second-class citizens which is frankly past the edge of suffering very serious human rights violations and is in danger of much worse if nothing is done.

no. subtitles are stupid.abe. i think that subtitle is still appropriate anyways because he's not even capable of reading english.Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

oh wow, two generations. that's like 40 years. i'm so impressed with the vast difference in people there. oh right people lived 800 million years back then and it's all crap.i never said that judaism came from iraq; i said the people who became the jews came from iraq. and if i recall correctly, issac married a relative and jacob married a relative, purposely. so whatever cannanite link is by location only. no, their main claim to fame is their fancy buldings and god kings. every documentary i've seen on egypt since i was 2 has said that those buildings could not have been built by unskilled slave labor. and it took the israelites how long to build a great big building? if they could have done it before, don't you think they would have? no, i'm not quoting anything. i'm referencing common knowledge from the real world, you know, outside your dusty old book where people tell the truth. and yet it's in your dusty old book. i wasn't describing it, asshole. don't talk to me about recognizing the justice or injustice of genocide. also, try reading. it's amazing what people are actually saying when you get your head out of itself. what i was suggesting is that the murder of jewish babies does not justify the murder or entire peoples by the jews. cite it. like buttseks and eating lobster and cutting their hair? real politik.
next? maybe it requires correct comprehension to be described as integrated or exacting. i want what you're smoking. it would make life easier. hahahahhahahahahhaahahaha so because everyone else was doing it it was ok for the people of god to do it? wtf? regardless of 'common practice' bullshit, genocide is never ok. you make me sick. there were jews in tasmania? when? is it cause the tasmanians were killed? are all victims of genocide jews now? the ghettos in poland were built and inhabitted by the jews by choice. open your newspaper lately?

it was made from a photo taken with the huge aerial camera that jesus gave them. you can see it on the windows 95 cds.

um. he was referring to genesis 36:31 which is in the torah and is allegedly written by moses. explain how moses knew that 400 years later there would be kings in israel. i don't recall there being discussion in genesis or exodus about god revealing the future to moses past his time in the desert.

i'm sure there's a highway with signs and no need for a compass.Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.

if this is what it meant, it would say "unlike other nations, there was no king in israel." but it doesn't. it says "before there were kings in israel," which suggests the foreknowledge that some day there would be kings in israel. it seems like you have the comprehension problem. do you think moses just threw around 'before's? do you do standup? really. mathematical texts? yes, and i wasn't discussing esau, but rather kings in israel.

it might be a day's journey...

i beg your pardon, yes it does say BEFORE THERE WERE KINGS IN ISRAEL. before is an indication of time. grammar being invented in the OT is a cute joke, but regardless, you still seem unable to read. precisely. at that time there were no kings in israel suggests that there is another time in which there ARE kings in israel. if such a time is to follow, how did moses know? that's exactly what i've been saying for three posts. but again, BEFORE THERE WERE KINGS IN ISRAEL suggests that the writer had knowledge of a future time when there would be kings, otherwise he wouldn't have said BEFORE THERE WERE KINGS IN ISRAEL and instead would have said THERE WERE NO KINGS IN ISRAEL.jeeze. clearly, not only can you not read, but you don't know anything about math. what the fuck do you propose is a "sum quotient"? hehe. so cute. i may be mistaken, but isn't numerology sorcery? also, the bible codes are BULLSHIT. see ages of discussion on this board.

i'm gonna stab a bitch.

what does "these are" have to do with "before"? nothing. dick fucking all.whatever. you're crazy. i'm out.