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Author Topic:   Why Literal?
wj
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Message 76 of 120 (38271)
04-28-2003 11:46 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by booboocruise
04-28-2003 11:09 PM


Thus boasts the creation scientist Booboo:
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Send me, (here at THIS forum) the most irrefutable, powerful evidence YOU have for evolution and I'd be glad to dissolve it in a few minutes. I read Ernst Mayr's book on evolution (he is a Harvard professor of zoology) and ALL the arguments he seems to be using against creation is out-dated and unreliable logic.
Perhaps you could provide an alternative explanation for the pattern of occurance of the GLO pseudogene in primates. Humans, chimpanzees, macaque and orangutan all share an identical crippling deletion mutation in their GLO gene which renders it useless and therefore they are dependent on dietary vitamin C. Prosimians, conventionally classified as a more distantly related group of primates, apparently have functional GLO genes. Most mammals have functional functional GLO genes.
The postulation from evolutionary science is that humans, chimpanzees, macaque and orangutans are descended from a common ancestor which had the mutated GLO gene in its genome and passed it down to its descendant species. In turn that common ancestor was descended from an earlier ancestor which it shared with prosimians, but that ancestor has a functional GLO gene.
Obviously humans, chimpanzees etc are different species but the pattern of GLO pseudogene distribution supports the existence of a previous common ancestor and subsequent macroevolution has resulted in the extant species.
So, the creationist explanation for this pattern is......?

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wj
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Message 81 of 120 (38297)
04-29-2003 3:41 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by AdminPamboli
04-29-2003 1:13 AM


Re: off topic
AdminPamboli, I was simply responding to a challenge issued by Booboo on this thread. I couldn't be bothered starting a new thread on the topic. If Booboo responds, admin may wish to create the new thread. I think this unlikely as Booboo shows signs of being a troll.
BTW, your linked webpage was parody, wasn't it? I sometimes find it difficult to distinuish between satire and serious fundamentalism.

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wj
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Message 86 of 120 (38372)
04-29-2003 7:23 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by AdminPamboli
04-29-2003 11:28 AM


Re: off topic
AP, wouldn't waste my money.
Has the self-proclaimed creation scientist finished trolling on this thread?

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wj
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Message 105 of 120 (38506)
05-01-2003 1:07 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by booboocruise
04-30-2003 2:16 AM


Re: off topic
Boobootroll, before you go any further with your red herring about apricot seeds which you threw in at message #87, how about responding substantively and logically to my message #76? You know, give the creationist scientist's explanation for the observed pattern of GLO pseudogenes in mammals. Try continuing in the Booboocruises Dissolvable Best Evidence thread.
And you can present your creationist scientist evidence for the relative similarities of human, chimpanzee and chicken lysozymes at For Booboocruise - digestive systems thread.
you are going to back up your assertions, aren't you? Or has someone borrowed your source book?

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wj
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Message 114 of 120 (38542)
05-01-2003 3:51 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Adminnemooseus
05-01-2003 1:30 AM


Re: Things terminally off topic?
I will desist from the Boobootroll. However I will continue to call a troll a troll when that is the case.
I have now made the effort to redirect the discussions on lysozyme and GLO pseudogenes onto appropriate threads. I understand that administration has previously directed Booboocruise to post on these topics in the appropriate threads (message #89) but he has failed to heed that warning. I don't wish Booboo to be suspended or punished but I suggest that administration chastise him for continuing to post off topic messages in this thread and giving the impression that he is trying to avoid genuine and full debate on the points that he has raised.

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