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Author Topic:   Bible Question: What was the First Sin?
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Message 281 of 312 (429992)
10-22-2007 10:57 PM


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the serpent functions as a temptation, giving him a role similar to satan. by the intertestimental period, people were reading the serpent as satan, as evidences by some of the various pseudepigraphical texts. the problem is that the satan himself doesn't seem to have been invented until pretty late in jewish mythology. granted, just before the torah was put together -- but he's not in the source documents or legends that inspired them. there is also the tradition of surrounding cultures that treated snakes as evil spirits.
what seems to have happened with the torah is that the authors took a lot of hints from mythology, and then stripped their stories of anything too polytheistic very carefully. an evil spirit in the form of a serpent was likely borrowed from other mesopotamian traditions, but editted down to be "just a snake." satan, possibly, comes out of similar traditions. so the two may in fact be related.
i agree here, hasatan or heylel came later......as per being borrowed from earlier traditions, i concur, the serpent is not satan or heylel but a serpent, this being in reference within the metaphors of the garden of eden and the temptation of knowledge with the result being knowledge of the flesh, or 666, or as may be from the earlier traditon of khundalini the representation of the physical realm in accordance with man is a symbol of a serpent with its coil wrapped around earth. so i think the serpent in the garden of eden was a chosen effigy by God to symbolise knowledge of the flesh or physical, which is the opposite side of being completely 100% spiritual.
i love the debate of the garden of eden.
i do not beleive that the first sin of temptation was commited in the garden of eden, i beleive the first sin was that of cain murdering abel.
in the bible it never says adam was tempted, it merely says he ate of the fruit after it was offered by eve, eve knew none the wiser.
adam was taught the order of things before eve was created, he knew he had paradise and 100% spiritual, so when presented with the fruit, he knew God wanted him to eat it, so as to know what it is to suffer to gain wisdom of the reason of God's grace, if adam never ate the fruit the story would not have continued and the only humans would have been adam and eve, none after.
a good google would be adam kadmon, primordial man etc.

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