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Asgara

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Message 64 of 312 (61121)
10-15-2003 11:56 PM

Reply to: Message 63 by phil
10-15-2003 10:58 PM

Re: litte off subject

Jewish concepts of Satan are totally different than Christian's. Satan is merely doing the job God gave him. Here is a great site discussing this from the Jewish perspective

Does Judaism Believe in Satan?

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Message 68 of 312 (61188)
10-16-2003 11:45 AM

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10-16-2003 11:30 AM

Re: litte off subject

Hi Prozacman,

One little clarification, I don't believe that Satan is God's robot. I personally don't believe in either one. I'm just arguing a poor plot line in a collection of very old books.

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Asgara

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Message 82 of 312 (62006)
10-21-2003 9:01 PM

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10-21-2003 8:16 PM

Re: litte off subject

You may believe that Judaism had no concept of the devil at that time, but obviously he didn't know that and/or doesn't subscribe to that idea

More to the point, Judaism does have a concept of "a satan" but no concept of "The Devil" or "Satan" as a Christian thinks of it.

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Does Judaism Believe in Satan?

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http://www.geocities.com/~alyza/Jewish/satan.html

From this site:
Alternative Religions

Is it true that in Judaism that Satan is viewed as one of God's angels?

Largely, yes. It is not unusual for Jewish believers to aver that Satan, unlike his Christian counterpart, is a loyal servant of God, rather than an egotistical evildoer. Satan means "accuser" in Hebrew, and in many instances of Jewish belief, he acts as a sort of judge and prosecutor, rooting out flaws in God's creation. He tempts Adam and Eve not to destroy them, but to further God's plans for the universe. Christian authors have taken a decidedly different view of Satan as an adversary of God and mankind.

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Message 238 of 312 (413135)
07-27-2007 7:09 PM

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07-27-2007 7:00 PM

Re: Symbolic Beliefs and the Reality of God

No, trust me it doesn't. The point of it was for him to figure out what we were capable of. Just like this situation, it was a Positive yeild(sic).

So he didn't know what A&E would do?

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