How do we know when the Gospels were written?

I'm not following you. "Thus it". What are you referring to by "it" and what is the "Thus"?The quote you cites makes it clear that the fundamentalist suppressed bibical scholarship but I don't see then how it follows the debate is "between critical scholars and traditionalists who have never trusted ..." Merle Hertzler on his web site pointed out that different Christians tend to hear the "Holy Spirit" or "God" affirming conflicting things based on what those individuals believe. So for example pacifist sects like the Mennonites tend to hear God denounce war while the more typical anti communist fundamentalist hear God approving of wars against the unbelievers. So it seems like the reports on the stands of the Holy Spirit are conflicted.lfen

What do you mean by "exists". Prior to creation what would existence be?lfen

Brian,Remember back to the old Soviet Union when the Russians had invented everything? at least they claimed to have invented everything first. I think it's kind of like that.If the Christians like it then it was Christian and was their's first, the pagans, or Jews or whoever must have then by this logic stolen it from them. Then I guess the communists stole this logic from the Christians! but then if the Commie's invented everything first then the Christians stole it from them, but only after they stole it first? Some sort of time travel paradox infinite loop results! oy!lfen