Is the bible the word of God or men?

IaJ, this is the second time you've made this false statement. Since it's off-topic for this thread, I'd like to direct you here. This statement is either woefully ignorant, a deliberate lie, or demonstrative of a horrendously flawed ethical system. I await your reply in the other thread.

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Every time a fundy breaks the laws of thermodynamics, Schroedinger probably kills his cat.

You realize this is circular reasoning, right? And that you'd never believe anything else was true on the sole basis that it says it is, right?"The Bible is true because the Bible says it's true. When the Bible says that it's true it can't be lying because the Bible is true."If you read a book, let's say the Harry Potter series, and the opening paragraph says "everything in these books is true, and literally happened," does that mean the events of the Harry Potter series actually happened? After all, it has to be true. It says so right there!

"This would be true if only it were not false?" That's not the point. What you just said in the post up above is that "the Bible is true because the Bible says that the Bible is true." That is circular reasoning, and as such is invalid. I'm not commenting on whether or not the Bible has proven to be true outside of that. I am only stating that that single statement you made is logically invalid. The Theory of Evolution is not the topic here. "You do it too" is the tu quoque logical fallacy - what evolution does or does not state is irrelevant to your comment regarding the Bible's validity. Feel free to open a new topic if you would like to discuss circular reasoning in evolution.Fact: When you say this, you are using circular reasoning to conclude that the Bible is true. This method of reasoning is false, and as such your conclusion does not stand, even if the Bible were true. Your reason and logic are at fault, and so your argument is broken.

So, you just admitted that your reasoning is circular and thus your conclusions are falsified. Evolution is irrelevant to this discussion.Edited by Rahvin, : Removed comment regarding childishness.