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Author Topic:   Is the bible the word of God or men?
Kapyong
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Message 13 of 309 (429996)
10-22-2007 11:26 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Force
10-22-2007 8:52 PM


Re: repost
Hi all,
quote:
The Bible is a book that contains some of the entirety of scripture available to us, that has been handcrafted by the Council of Nicea
Trossthree -
the Council of Nicea had nothing to do with choosing the books of the Bible.
This is merely a common urban legend.
Iasion

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Kapyong
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Message 21 of 309 (430193)
10-23-2007 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by Force
10-23-2007 4:56 PM


Re: repost
Hi all,
quote:
Please provide some references for your silly claim.
I beg your pardon?
This is a known historical fact.
The Council of Nicea did NOT choose the books of the Bible at all.
You linked to a page on the council, but you clearly didn't even READ it at all - go back and read your link - you will find no mention therein of the council deciding the books of the bible.
quote:
I would be amused to read some more information on your claim.
Why didn't you read the facts in the first place?
Why didn't you go and check the facts when I questioned your claim?
Have a read of the canons of the Council here:
CHURCH FATHERS: First Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325)
Note the contents - the council did not even discuss the books of the Bible at all.
Your claim is false.
Iasion

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Kapyong
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Message 256 of 309 (459480)
03-07-2008 9:58 PM
Reply to: Message 251 by TheTruth
03-07-2008 4:30 PM


Re: responsibility for ego
quote:
It says so "All scripture is God breathed"
Firstly -
no it doesn't, there is no word "is" present in the Greek. The sentence is ambiguous. Have you ever checked the original Greek?
Secondly -
this is from a pastoral epistle - a letter FORGED in the name of Paul. Do you think a FORGERY is good proof?
Thirdly -
this letter was not scripture itself when it was written. Do you think it refers to ITSELF as scripture?
Fourthly -
using the Bible to "prove" the Bible is circular nonsense. Do you think The Lord of The Rings proves The Hobbit true?
Iasion

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Kapyong
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Message 259 of 309 (459491)
03-08-2008 2:50 AM
Reply to: Message 258 by TheTruth
03-07-2008 10:25 PM


Re: responsibility for ego
quote:
First, please use correct grammer and capitalization.
First, learn how to SPELL correctly.
Second, learn how not to be a hypocrite.
quote:
I'm pretty sure that a load of made up bull crap, unless you feel like proving it. Paul wrote that?
It is a consensus of modern NT scholarship that the Pastorals are forgeries. It appears you have never studied the facts. Try here for reasons why it is considered a forgery :
2 Timothy
quote:
Okay, but do we really want to look at evolution it has more holes than what I said
Why are you changing the subject?
Anyway - evolution is an observed fact. This appears to be another subject you have never studied.
Iasion

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