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Rei
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Message 3 of 126 (58401)
09-28-2003 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
09-28-2003 11:10 PM


Ancient Rome. You can't get more obvious. Rome is famous for sitting on seven hills; its colors were red (blood), gold (money), and purple (the imperial color); it ruled over most of the world, sat on many waters, was involved in the death of large numbers of Christians, etc. Many argue that the 10 horns were the 10 tribes that defeated the Roman empire, although there are many things that "10" can be - think of all of the things in your city that there are "10" of.

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Rei
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Message 5 of 126 (58424)
09-29-2003 3:22 AM
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09-29-2003 1:06 AM


Apart from the fact that Rome is the city of 7 hills (Palatine, Capitoline, Quirinal, Esquiline, Viminal, Caelian, and Aventine), and was oppressing the world at the time (among other things)?

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Rei
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Message 24 of 126 (58669)
09-29-2003 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Buzsaw
09-29-2003 10:40 PM


quote:
Nobody, but nobody is gona wanta be Mystery Babylon, or anywhere near her when payday/hour comes.
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Yes, which according to Matthew 24:33-34 and many other passages, is due about 19 centuries ago.

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Rei
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Message 31 of 126 (58691)
09-30-2003 2:28 AM
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09-30-2003 1:55 AM


Well, that's not what Matthew says, but let's just pretend that it does. Please excuse me if I take some time in responding, as managing both the Secularistic Agenda and the Homosexual Agenda take some time - not to mention lots of paper!

Paul makes it quite clear that he expects the end any year. He talks about how people shouldn't even worry about marriage, because the end of the world is near. All of the books continue to reference how close the end is. 20 centuries later, and there's nothing. The only unambiguous prophecy didn't occur. Name one other thing from the Bible that can be used as predictive value to test its accuracy.

Seriously, though, I have no problem with you believing that Revelations is yet-to-come - that's just fine by me. But you're *Really* stretching your definition to try and see Vatican City as being Mystery Babylon, versus ancient Rome. Rome, which literally sat on 7 hills, whose colors were Red, Gold, and Violet; who quite literally killed many Christians; etc. There's no question at all - on every front, it is far closer than the Vatican. Rome, who was hated in Paul's time, was viewed as the center of extravigance and sin, who exploited the labor and resources of its provinces....

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come hell or high water

The former of which you seem to feel is ruled over by the Vatican.

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Rei
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Message 33 of 126 (58697)
09-30-2003 3:16 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by wj
09-30-2003 3:00 AM


Hey, I don't think Aussies are ones to talk about the uneducated, rednecks, fundies, or anything of the sort. Remember, your country actually elected a government which installed nationwide censorship on all ISPs in the country.

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Rei
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Message 35 of 126 (58769)
09-30-2003 1:16 PM
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09-30-2003 5:11 AM


I would have commented on this also, but it's a topic for the Israel-Palestine thread; I'd recommend that if others want to discuss it, they move over there:

www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&f=14&t=145&p=2 -->www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&f=14&t=145&p=2">http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&f=14&t=145&p=2

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Rei
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Message 38 of 126 (58886)
09-30-2003 11:09 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Buzsaw
09-30-2003 10:46 PM


Re: Prophecies
I'd bet on that one It's not going to happen.

People have been saying "The end is here!" and "Look at how much worse this generation is than the last!" as far back as records go. The myth of a "Golden Age" is an illusion.

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... continues its drift away from the fundamentals taught by Jesus and the apostles ...

Ah. Like the whole "turning the other cheek" thing? Or his message of undying tolerance (parable of the Good Samaritan, etc)? Yeah, I'll agree to that one.

If you look at the world, yes, there are lots of people being killed in violence. But the majority aren't Christians. Since World War II, we've gotten exceedingly good at killing, and avoiding being killed. Unfortunately, that means that whoever ends up as our enemy suffers immensely, disproportionately.

About the prophecy.... It quacks all right....

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Rei
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Message 40 of 126 (58896)
09-30-2003 11:47 PM
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09-30-2003 11:37 PM



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