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anglagard
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Message 52 of 126 (474664)
07-10-2008 12:36 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Buzsaw
07-09-2008 10:57 PM


Re: Prophecies
Buzsaw writes:

1. There was a time in history subsequent to the time of the prophecy to the tune of several centuries when the popes of Rome essentially ruled the rulers of the world, i.e. ".....kings of the earth have commited fornication with her." (Revelation 18:3). The world body to this day has given (imo) undue respect to Vatican City, allowing it a place in the world body with ambassadors etc.

Bet that was news to the Emperor of China, the Princes of India, the King of Siam, the Tokugawa Shogunate, the Bantu kingdoms, and the Ottoman Empire. Guess over half the world's population don't count in your definition of humanity.

Maybe your image of world history at any given time is too provincial for a self-proclaimed infallible interpretation of Biblical prophecy.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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Message 54 of 126 (474667)
07-10-2008 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by Coragyps
09-29-2003 11:04 AM


Coragyps writes:

Sterling City, Texas

:laugh:

Sorry, joke has local flavor. Back to your regularly scheduled BS in this thread.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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Message 80 of 126 (474901)
07-12-2008 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Buzsaw
07-10-2008 8:03 AM


Interpretation of Prophecies Minus the Personal Integrity
IN Message 50 Buzsaw wrote:

quote:
There was a time in history subsequent to the time of the prophecy to the tune of several centuries when the popes of Rome essentially ruled the rulers of the world, i.e. ".....kings of the earth have commited fornication with her." (Revelation 18:3).

In Message 52 I wrote:

quote:
Bet that was news to the Emperor of China, the Princes of India, the King of Siam, the Tokugawa Shogunate, the Bantu kingdoms, and the Ottoman Empire. Guess over half the world's population don't count in your definition of humanity.

I stand by what I stated, there was no time in history up to the present "to the tune of several centuries when the popes of Rome essentially ruled the rulers of the world."

Now a person of integrity would admit they made a mistake, retract such a false statement and move on.

What does Buzsaw do?

Refuse to admit any culpability as shown by this response meant to 'palm the pea.'

Buzsaw writes:

1. The prophecy pertained to a time when the rulers of prominent nations were subject to the oppressive religion of one city, Vatican City.

So now "the popes of Rome essentially ruled the rulers of the world" has become "rulers of prominent nations were subject to the oppressive religion of one city."

Nice try Buz, but I think once again you have fooled no one but yourself.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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Message 86 of 126 (474990)
07-12-2008 6:25 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by sl33w
07-12-2008 5:00 PM


Re: Papacy Ruled Europe 1260 Years
The world is bigger than Europe, in fact the world is bigger than even all the European colonies at their height. Now if you would like to argue that the UK (which owned a quarter of the world at their peak), the US, Canada, Australia, China, Japan, Thailand, the Ottoman Empire, Persia, Indonesia, or for that matter even Latin America whose revolutions were often anti-clerical, were taking their orders from the Pope feel free. Or in other words, feel free to have your arguments quashed.

I still "stand by what I stated, there was no time in history up to the present 'to the tune of several centuries when the popes of Rome essentially ruled the rulers of the world'."

Do you own a globe? If not perhaps now is a good time to look into it.

ABE - Also you are wrong about the papacy ruling all of Europe for any 1260 years as most vikings did not convert until around 1000 AD and the pagan Prussians and Lithuanians were not conquered by the Teutonic Knights until the 1200s. Plus you still have that problem with the Eastern Orthodox Church of the Byzantine Empire and Russia splitting from Rome and any papacy in 1054 AD.

Edited by anglagard, : No reason given.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 89 of 126 (475457)
07-16-2008 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by sl33w
07-13-2008 6:21 PM


Re: Kings of the Earth (Europe)
If you have condemned Buzsaw, Jaywill and I to hell for somehow countering the self-proclaimed voice of God (or is it voice of something like Sauron?) as you have done here:

sl33w writes:

Jaywill and Buzsaw cannot open their mouths without reciting the “blasphemies of the Beast.” This is also true of you.

The evidence against you is preponderous!

All I can say to someone who insists that Europe is larger than the world is have fun talking to your navel, I'm sure the answers you receive are exactly what you want to hear.

As for me, this is the last reply I will make to any of your statements unless and until I perceive a marginally rational and balanced mind behind such posts.

Edited by anglagard, : to be nice


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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