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ConsequentAtheist
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Message 13 of 213 (68600)
11-22-2003 5:36 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Cold Foreign Object
11-22-2003 4:46 PM


Re: Reply to Atheists
The bare minimum that God asks is that a person acknowledge Him as God and to be thankful. The inability to do this means He has probably removed your ability to respond as a penalty for trifling with Him.

At the very least, the example of some snot-nosed brain actually embracing such an inane position should serve as a stunning refutation of Intelligent Design.

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ConsequentAtheist
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Message 34 of 213 (69306)
11-25-2003 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Rei
11-25-2003 9:12 PM


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The text says that they could possess those people, the chief intent in those days was servitude
Not true. "Rape and pillage" has long been the standard for warfare.

The response seems just a bit too greasy. Do you have any basis for asserting that the intent was rape?

[This message has been edited by ConsequentAtheist, 11-25-2003]


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ConsequentAtheist
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Message 48 of 213 (70455)
12-01-2003 10:08 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Yaro
12-01-2003 7:50 PM


... anyone wanna have a stab at it?

Perhaps, though the following is little more than informed speculation.

George E. Mendenhall, Frank Moore Cross, and others have emphasized the centrality of kinship rights and covenants among the proto-Israelites. In fact, the traditions reflected in Deuteronomy were comparatively egalitarian, with strict rules for dealing with kin, servant and slave. In a period of arranged marriages and a religious insistence on sexual purity (i.e., virginity), only the girl child, of young virgin, would be seen as appropriate for integration into proto-Israelite society. To the extent that this is true, the exception made for virgins reflects, not a society intent on rape, but a society intent on taking into itself only those who could be treated 'equitably', i.e., in accordance with the law.

Of course, all this talk of slaughtering the evil Midianites is little more than jingoistic propagande, but even propaganda must pay homage to the realities and constraints of the society in question.


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ConsequentAtheist
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Message 111 of 213 (77295)
01-09-2004 6:27 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by Cold Foreign Object
01-08-2004 10:48 PM


Now, the heart of the issue. God is omnipotent. God is omniscient. These are logical assumptions ascribed to God.

No, they are not logical assumptions. In fact, the overwhelming number of God-constructs were neither.

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ConsequentAtheist
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Message 177 of 213 (78115)
01-12-2004 10:03 PM
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01-12-2004 9:47 PM


All the ancients believed in God. It is only this modern yuppie trash generation that rejects His existence ...

Speaking of trash ...

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