jar - On Christianity

I don't quite see that or that his message is of total service. His message was about living life. He partied, threw fishfries, went to weddings, laughed and cried with his friends, played jokes on them and chided them at times.

Isn't there something in the story about Jesus' asking that a certain cup be taken from him and then a subsequent death by torture? I'm almost sure I read that somewhere.

Which bit is wrong?

Which bit is wrong?

I don't recall him laughing, but perhaps he did. There seems to be something rather important left out of the story as Jar describes it, however.

Isn't there something in the story about Jesus' asking that a certain cup be taken from him and then a subsequent death by torture? I'm almost sure I read that somewhere.

Sure. Pretty human reaction. Most folk don't want to die. As to his death, dying is a function of being born. Crucifixion also wasn't all that unusual, in fact there were at least two others crucified the very same day, time and place while it is likely that dozens or even hundreds of folk were crucified that day throughout the Roman Empire.

The message of Jesus is NOT his death, it is his life and the wondrous things he taught us during it. It is his resurrection and ascension after death. It is the empty cross.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

What do you think he did at weddings and feasts? Stood in the corner and frowned? What was the purpose of him expericing live as a man if he spent it as kid emo?

This is a reasonable take on the matter.

http://www.whosoever.org/v8i3/louielaugh.shtml

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What do you think he did at weddings and feasts? Stood in the corner and frowned? What was the purpose of him expericing live as a man if he spent it as kid emo?

Is there any mention of him laughing and joking in the Bible? I'm just curious.

The message of Jesus is NOT his death, it is his life and the wondrous things he taught us during it. It is his resurrection and ascension after death. It is the empty cross.

Well, you had already gotten rid of the Fall and now you've gotten rid of the Passion. There's really nothing left of Christianity according to your version except some feel-good pop psychology.

Why on earth do you call it "Christianity"?

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Is there any mention of him laughing and joking in the Bible? I'm just curious.

No.

Jesus has a wonderful gravity and soberness and poise and balance and penetrating presence it seems to me. Always responsive to people exactly where they are. Never joked. I won't say it couldn't have happened, although to my mind it's out of character, but it is not reported anywhere so there is no basis for claiming it.

Is there any mention of him laughing and joking in the Bible? I'm just curious.

Nope.

There are several examples in the Bible. One of my favorites is the tale of Peter walking on water. Jesus convinces him to come out and stroll the waves, but when Peters suspension of reason fails him, he starts to sink. Jesus laughs and in a friendly manner chides him, but helps him back to the boat.

Another classic is Doubting Thomas. Tommy says "Yeah? You say you are Jesus so prove it?" Jesus kinda laughs and says "Sure Tommy. Come here. Stick your hands in the holes. Doubt I could do much water walking with these feet, eh?"

Even Jesus first miracle is an example of His sense of humor. Jesus makes the miraculaous beer run but does he spoil the fun by explaining it? Nope. He just sits back and lets the good times roll.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Jesus laughs and in a friendly manner chides him, but helps him back to the boat.

It says in the Bible that he laughs?

Jesus makes the miraculaous beer run but does he spoil the fun by explaining it? Nope. He just sits back and lets the good times roll.

It occurs to me that if Jesus had used a little more tact, he could have saved himself from being crucified and lived out his life as the good-humored party-goer you characterize him as.

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It says in the Bible that he laughs?

Nope, not in the Peter story. But reading it I can't imagine it without the chuckle. Mayhaps some can but I sure can't.

24But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary. 25And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea. 26And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear. 27But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid. 28And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water. 29And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus. 30But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me. 31And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? 32And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.

If you want to see the store as morose, then fine. You are welcome to view it that way.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I can definatley see the humor in that.
jeez, and I always thought the bible was so serious.

I don't no who could say "Be of good cheer, it is I" without at least a little bit of a chuckle.

I mean, it's like the dad entering the room full of scared shitless kids, and the dad knows there's nothing to be afraid of, so he'll laugh a little ad say it's just me walking in.

I rather like your interpretation of christianity, Jar.

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All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences

I rather like your interpretation of christianity, Jar.

That's because it's not Christianity.

Jar's taken out all the unpleasant parts (like the Fall and the Passion).

robinrohan writes: It occurs to me that if Jesus had used a little more tact, he could have saved himself from being crucified and lived out his life as the good-humored party-goer you characterize him as.

He should have used more smilies when He wrote the Bible.

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