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Author Topic:   Abiogenesis - Or Better Living Through Chemistry
Mister Pamboli
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Message 8 of 85 (5739)
02-27-2002 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by John Paul
02-27-2002 8:07 PM


[QUOTE][b]Life begets life. That is all but proven.[/QUOTE]

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That rules out God, then, doesn't it?
[QUOTE][b]The black box has been opened, no longer can we ignore the contents or what they tell us.[/QUOTE]

[/b]Enough with the Black Box already! You sound like the Bellman - "I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true."
Behe cites the 40 years of research which opened the black box of the cell. No one has ever ignored its implications - I cannot think of any subject in science which currently attracts more research dollars like mutant fruit flies to jam. And you know what, JP - the people who did the research were overwhelmingly evolutionists, the people who do the research are overwhelmingly evolutionists, and before after and during their research they remain, overwhelmingly, evolutionists.
Some change their mind, sure enough, but the majority find no challenge to the principle of evolution in their work.
Darwin's Black Box? More like the last squeak of creationism, struggling in its own mousetrap.

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Mister Pamboli
Member (Idle past 6367 days)
Posts: 634
From: Washington, USA
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Message 22 of 85 (5803)
02-28-2002 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by joz
02-28-2002 10:00 AM


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Originally posted by joz:
I will try and walk people through these various errors, and show why it is not possible to do a "probability of abiogenesis" calculation in any meaningful way.

Cool - I look forward to that. Will you be covering the impossibility of calculating the probability of a singular event after the fact?
So often this bit is missed out - actually criticizing the details of their calculations can tend to give credence to the idea that a calculation of some kind could be tenable, when in fact no calcualtion of any kind can be meaningful.

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