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onifre
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Message 277 of 312 (478372)
08-14-2008 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 275 by Blue Jay
08-14-2008 3:43 PM


Re: In Summation
Hi Bluejay,

science has upheld Abiogenesis as the only tenable possibility for an origin of life simply because that’s where the objective observations and mathematical models of multiple fields of study have pointed us.

Sorry to be picky, and by the way great post, it was very to the point and I doubt AOK will respond with anything but his/her usual semantical bullshit but, isn't Panspermia,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

also a tenable possibility? I only mean it in the 'tenable' aspect.


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onifre
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Message 280 of 312 (478382)
08-14-2008 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by bluegenes
08-14-2008 4:40 PM


Re: In Summation
The point that we've been making, that once there was no life in the universe, then there was, is not about where it originated, just that it must have done so.

Cool, agreed.


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onifre
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Message 309 of 312 (478696)
08-19-2008 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 306 by AlphaOmegakid
08-19-2008 4:59 PM


Re: In Summation
Please provide a citation of scientific evidence or data that atoms didn't exist 13Bya.

If atoms existed then why do we need Quantum physics, String/M-theory, Particle physics etc...? Wouldn't GR explain it all?

However, heres a link to explain particles to you since they would be found T the earliest time in our universe and are NOT atoms,

http://universe-review.ca/F15-particle.htm#particles

There potentially are many valid scientific or metaphysical explanations for the beginning of life.

I think this is the whole point to your line of thought, in that you don't know where to seperate the 2.

*In Science,

There are many valid scientific explanations for the beginning of life.

*In Theology,

There are many valid metaphysical explanations for the beginning of life.

The 2 do not over lap. Abiogenesis, and/or the origin of life from chemicals, can ONLY be understood in a scientific sense. By invoking God you did nothing to explain the process by which these chemicals came to be, what we define, as 'life'.

Edited by onifre, : No reason given.


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onifre
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Message 310 of 312 (478697)
08-19-2008 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by New Cat's Eye
08-19-2008 5:44 PM


Re: In Summation
8 smiley faces???

I believe you got on Cavedivers case for placing 5 on one post...you sir are out of control!!!


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