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Author Topic:   A Logical account of creation
Huntard
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Message 92 of 173 (520245)
08-20-2009 4:25 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by traste
08-20-2009 12:20 AM


Re: you are ignorant
traste writes:

That process is not really good, infact astronomer Carl Sagan once said mutation is "lethal".


Even IF Sagan were qualified to say this, I call bullshit on this one. Give me the complete source, or admit you were lying.

Are mutations producing anything new?

Yes.

The famous experiment on fruitfly drosophila melanogaster did not produce anything new,the fruitly remained a fruitfly.

You really don't know what evolution is all about, do you?

In fact modern research show that they have no significant effect on the creature only on their owners.

Stop lying. There were many effects on the fruitflies, including new species.

The magic we observe today (in responds of your second sentence),can be observe directly and can be proven that the trick is indeed done.

Same with evolutions.

Why compare proven things to unproven things.?

I don't know, you keep bringing up creationsism, not us.

Actually Im, not surprise that you reasct in this manner, this the way proponents of evolution behave whenever they encounter any scientifc laws that are inconflict with their beliefs.

There exists no scientific law that contradicts evolution. Stop lying.

The law of recurrent is not a "so- called law" it well established that organism has real boundaries and they canot go beyond that boundaries.

Really? Would you mind pointing out where those boundaries are, if it is so well established?

Some science professor are saying that fish is indeed a family.

Another lie without backing.

If intellectual men will list the history of fraud science evolution will be on the top.

Actually, it will probably be creationsim.


I hunt for the truth
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Huntard
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Message 143 of 173 (548178)
02-26-2010 1:51 AM
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02-26-2010 1:35 AM


Re: Scientific laws
traste writes:

But you should also consider the fact that your knowledge in evolution is not your own. You also qoute them from the people who believe in evolution.


We don't twist their words around to make them say things they are not. Also, have you ever seen an "evolutionist" quote mine a creationist (not as a demonstration on why to avoid such a thing)?
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Huntard
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Message 146 of 173 (548199)
02-26-2010 4:46 AM
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02-26-2010 2:17 AM


Re: Scientific laws
traste writes:

My main point here is the logical consequences of there arguments, like for example if somebody would say a is b and in the second sentences, would say, well I'm not really sure if a is b, and yet insist that a is b because he or she believe it, that is doubtful.


That's is why all scientific conclusions are tentative. I've never read any scientist's report that said something must be so.

Take note also that in the court of law your statements can be use againts you, that is the method being use to determine that somebody is lying.

Like in the Dover case, you mean?
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Huntard
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Message 147 of 173 (548202)
02-26-2010 5:48 AM
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02-16-2010 4:07 AM


Re: Scientific laws
traste writes:

Study the rules of logic and you will understand why many proponents of creation qoute many propopnents of evolution. Do you know why?


Yes, it's so they can pretend they said something they didn't.

Because they themselves express doubts of there beliefs...

Of course, they are honest scientists, afterall.

...but I understand that those doubts is still still in favor of there beliefs.

No, they're not. The genuine doubts that is, not the quotemined nonsense creationists bring up.
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