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Author Topic:   PROOF against evolution
Brad McFall
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Message 34 of 562 (45180)
07-05-2003 11:49 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by DC85
07-05-2003 11:43 PM


This is a position I found Simon Levin to expound but it is clearly inferior to some such from Gould for instance WHEN it is combined with the "Chicago" school of ecology. My simple response to this "professional" was to see the complex as simple but when he didnt get the flat out statment and I attempted to "embed" the same in a particular morphology with defernece ot Hilbert's programmatic use of incidence geometry he begged off without insight that what I THEN said was tooooo philosophical. He only wanted the ""obsfucation that equations and not words provide as one UPDATES already existing models and thus the odds and ends get ipso facto supported without ANY necessarily sufficent reality in nature or little to say the least.

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5058 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 44 of 562 (45342)
07-07-2003 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Buzsaw
07-07-2003 11:28 PM


Re: Thread Relocation
Buz, I have not seen the general drift of your posts so I would like you to tell me if that quote was only meant to provoke discussion, contain some difference of positions, or otherwise wise? I have listened to Eigen speak in Baker Hall, Ithaca, NY so I do have something to say but please spare me the trouble of reading all of your posts, will you mate?

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Brad McFall
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Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 334 of 562 (132812)
08-11-2004 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 332 by jar
08-11-2004 12:44 PM


Re: So that's what's bothering you bubba?
Jar, I can argue against the ivy-taught evolutionary theory from a CIRCLE but I would have had to have connected TWO TRAINS of thought I have already started. I am not going to mess up the good thinkthing I already have going. I agree with Asgara in general.

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Brad McFall
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Message 424 of 562 (133289)
08-12-2004 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 423 by pink sasquatch
08-12-2004 2:10 PM


Re: turtles all the way down?
I dont know if this helps or hurts so if it cann not bee used in "prooving" one way or the other than please ignore this one.
Gladyshev in Advanced Gerontology 2002-Vol.9-P49-53 on page 53 wrote, "It has been established that the evolution is described both by thermodynamic and kinetic factors and by the trajectory factor (symmetry or chirality) which should be accounted for in rotating systems. The Coriolis forces can support spiral bio-structures to a different degree depending on the habitation area of organism."
There IS PROIR INFORMATION, right here on EVC, and though I have yet to send another personal email to Russia since the spring, my contribution here nairly makes a habit out of GG's "habitat" and indeed in the extended discussion in my namesakethread I have limited this "habitation area" to an age and error of Aggasiz (in my own mind at least). I hope to be able to explain this better, on these other threads, at a latter time. Nonetheless I do believe we at EVC HAVE been able to diminish this extent to less than the universe. So no, I would not say "turtles all the way down".

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