Understanding through Discussion


Welcome! You are not logged in. [ Login ]
EvC Forum active members: 64 (9046 total)
126 online now:
Christian7, PaulK, Phat (AdminPhat) (3 members, 123 visitors)
Newest Member: Dade
Post Volume: Total: 887,293 Year: 4,939/14,102 Month: 537/707 Week: 92/176 Day: 1/20 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   The "Digital Code" of DNA
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


Message 79 of 143 (409956)
07-12-2007 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by Fosdick
07-12-2007 11:56 AM


Re: Code above-and-beyond DNA?
The same thing could be said about a written language: 'Words are in the structure of the sentence, or letters are in the structure of the word.'

And words are meaningless unless we apply a meaning to them in the same way that the DNA "code" is meaningless until we apply a meaning to it.

The function of the code is independent of any "meaning" because its all just chemistry. There is no "code" necessary.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 78 by Fosdick, posted 07-12-2007 11:56 AM Fosdick has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 83 by Fosdick, posted 07-12-2007 12:54 PM New Cat's Eye has responded

  
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


Message 89 of 143 (409983)
07-12-2007 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Fosdick
07-12-2007 12:54 PM


Re: Code above-and-beyond DNA?
And words are meaningless unless we apply a meaning to them in the same way that the DNA "code" is meaningless until we apply a meaning to it.

Non sequitur. Who said anything about "meaning" anyway?

You are when you're calling it a digital code. A code without meaning is no longer a code. My point still stands.

The function of the code is independent of any "meaning" because its all just chemistry. There is no "code" necessary.

Well, yes. But you brought up "meaning."

Well, at least you're admitting that the code is unecessary. Consider yourself refuted.

btw: There is a digital genetic code, and it is necessary.

Oh, wait... maybe you're not.

btw: There is NO digital genetic code and it is NOT necessary.

Wow, that's a fun game.

How about instead of just stating crap, you actually support it?


This message is a reply to:
 Message 83 by Fosdick, posted 07-12-2007 12:54 PM Fosdick has not yet responded

  
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


Message 90 of 143 (409985)
07-12-2007 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Fosdick
07-12-2007 2:57 PM


Re: Code above-and-beyond DNA?
Hoot Mon writes:

Ringo writes:

Hoot Mon writes:


The ordering of DNA is not the same thing as the ordering a quartz crystal.

Their ordering is based on the same chemical principles.


No they are not—not their ordering. Quartz crystals have no codes that specific structure.

But they are based on the same chemical principles like every other chemical that exists. There isn't anything about DNA that makes it excluded from chemical principles.

And quartz crystals have no "codes" that specify structure because WE haven't defined the codes as such. The only thing that makes DNA different is that we've labeled and defined the "code". But that is something that we have added on, it isn't intrinsic to the property of DNA like you seem to think it is.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 88 by Fosdick, posted 07-12-2007 2:57 PM Fosdick has not yet responded

  
New Cat's Eye
Inactive Member


Message 92 of 143 (409993)
07-12-2007 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by ringo
07-12-2007 4:36 PM


Re: Code above-and-beyond DNA?
A code has been applied to nucleic acids to make it easier to understand the structure.

That's what I'm sayin'.

Why can Hoot not understand this? Is he just being disingenuous?


This message is a reply to:
 Message 91 by ringo, posted 07-12-2007 4:36 PM ringo has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 93 by ringo, posted 07-12-2007 4:59 PM New Cat's Eye has not yet responded

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2018 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.0 Beta
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2021