Problems with the first life

life can not be created -ocationally- by chemical reactions -ONLY-.in the very short age of earth to be so. There must be a reason -the same first reason - that created the whole univerce before.Is not it true???!!!

If we accept that life had been exist due to some chemical reactoins ;we -surely-will face the truth that the earth age is too short to be enough .Such reactions (that can creat a such various complicated organisms)will take many many multiples of earth time (if it could be realy).

let us begin step by step
but first, I would like to know if you beleive that life had been created without a creater.!!!!

qThis message has been edited by dandon83, 07-21-2004 05:30 AM

Imagine with me please .
the earth is born having elements and some simple compounds.most of it is water . atoms are moving colliding with each other, combining ,forming a large molecule such as proteins (which will play a great role in life -later-)how long -do you think- such a procces will take? then a molecule with an another and another gathered to form a primary cell. what make a molecule rather than the others to be a membrane to protect the cell from outer conditions??!!! can you tell ?? now this living cell found that it must do some procceses to keep living !!okey .reproducing! how could a mindless molecules know how to divide the cell into two similar cells??!how to know what essential components must exist in both to keep living??!!!!do you want me to continue??

okey

You said:RNA can be formed from chains of aminoacids .some RNA chains can replicate them selves.that's all we need to start with.This RNA is the important molecule that controls the cell procceses, so to have a life it must exist in all cells .and for good look it was found to be cabable to replicate it self .what a clever mindless life??!!!!!!OR ..OHH!! let me guess .you want to say that life originated by true and false principle.that is somthing happens ,if it was good it lasts .but if it was not good the cell finishes and life-to be originated-will wait another long time .waiting something good to happen to keep it existing!!!!!!!!!This message has been edited by dandon83, 07-20-2004 04:50 AM

Thank you LAM but I prefer that you would be just scientific . and thank you for your kindness.

analogy reply one:
If we pretend that there is a chance to have another life on other planet.do we feel it ??do we contact with??did life originated on earth match with it any moment??? surely no .so it has no effect on life development on earth. and do not forget our whole topic is to prove the presence or not of a great creater that created universe.analogy reply two:
it is a small chane to me to be born in exact hospital for an exact midwfie as you says . but it did happen that's the truth .Is not it??
okey I AGREE WITH YOU but how long time did it take to happen??since humanbeings was found .that is a very very long time . if I ask you to make it happen in afew years ;that is the impossiple thing it needs some one's cabable to do it;that is GOD.
notice that this is just someone was born how about if i ask you to form a high-level and complicated organisation of such a persons!!!!!!!but how I did know that the earth's age was not enough for life origination in such a way; that is what i am realy trying to explain. just give me some time .cause i can use the internet one hour a day-except friday and saturday- i have a6 hours long inorganic chemistry lab.This message has been edited by dandon83, 07-20-2004 05:24 AM

let me ask you the question in an opposite way.
now we have the RNA which can replicates it self. why did it have the cabablity to control cellular activities . why did not any other molecule -that can not replicate it self-have this property?

I said "surely no" as an answer of the question"do we feel any life on other planets?" and you reply "surely yes"
what did you mean? do feel another existance of life?

what do you think about Darwin's theory .is it acceptaple?This message has been edited by dandon83, 07-21-2004 05:59 AM

okey
then why are we all humans? why there is not some creature that did not come into complete? why there is not some life has just been originated?

I am so sorry .I can not speak english very well ,so you do not understand what do I mean .
I mean :
darwin said that humans have been developed from other things in stages . my question is why we do not find any speicies in the prvious stages?or why we still humans?since the history begins,humans still humans .is not there a following stage?And sorry again for my weak language!!!

have you followed the disscussion from the bigining?