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Prince Lucianus
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Message 47 of 138 (126202)
07-21-2004 7:10 AM


What is an incomplete creature?
The "why are we human" can be anwsered by your parents or analogy nr 1 by (he whose name I forgot right now), but chance is a good enough anwser. You could have been a cow, or most probably a beetle (since god seems to like beetles so much), but by an (un)lucky chance, you were born human.
Lucy
This message has been edited by Prince Lucianus, 07-21-2004 06:11 AM

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Prince Lucianus
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Message 54 of 138 (126217)
07-21-2004 8:20 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by dandon83
07-21-2004 7:59 AM


Re to statement that I didn't read all.
Indeed.
I can cope with 4 pages thank you.
Lucy
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Prince Lucianus
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Message 56 of 138 (126231)
07-21-2004 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Nasa
07-21-2004 9:42 AM


Just like their are many organismes who live in pitch darkness, or in envirenmonts without oxygen or inside rocks or in boiling temperatures..
The only basic necessity for live is water (or maybe another liquid substance), after that, anything seems to be fair game.
Lucy
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Prince Lucianus
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Message 59 of 138 (126234)
07-21-2004 9:59 AM


Sure, if you tell me where god came from.
Why is a lucky chance so hard to grasp while believing that out of nothing came a supreme being who suddenly decided to make all this seems to make a lot of sense. Since this makes much less sense than a big bang universe (with all the other theories), the argument always returns to faith.
I'll chickenly leave the defence of why creatures became the way they are to others. Several lengthy posts about chemical, biological and other ways to explain the why are already on this page. If not, I'll send a link to one of them shortly.
Lucy

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Prince Lucianus
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Message 62 of 138 (126243)
07-21-2004 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by Nasa
07-21-2004 10:18 AM


That's what I mean.
It's faith with biblical scriptures as prove. I suppose you'll use Genesis to prove these hard facts of yours. What did this fellow do before he made us? Wasn't he bored stiffless that he had an infite time before simply doing nothing.
I'm still amazed that an omnipotent god who suddenly always was! is more believable than the world we live in today without this deity from nowhere.
Lucy

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Prince Lucianus
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Message 66 of 138 (126251)
07-21-2004 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 63 by Nasa
07-21-2004 10:31 AM


Evolution has been observed.
In Robert Pennock's book (Tower of Bable) he describes two biologists who discovered that a population of birds with harder beaks were the only ones who survived because the seeds they ate got harder to crack. This was also written in Darwins book. It's science, not a religion.
I don't think it is needed on this site to show you all the evidence of others which show evolution has been observed.
The only evidence creationists have is trying to attack evolution, instead of showing creationist evidence. Actually, even AiG has a huge list of arguments which shouldn't be used to prove creationism.
On topic: I always find this PDF rather interesting to remain a little on topic:
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Prince Lucianus
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Message 69 of 138 (126261)
07-21-2004 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 68 by Nasa
07-21-2004 10:59 AM


I know what science is (especially concerning mediterrenean archaeology which has no baring here ). Do you know what a scientific method is? Is there such a thing as religious scientific method or is it impossible, because religion is just in your head?
Can you counter evolutionist arguments by scientific method or bring forward creationist evidence, instead of simply denying them?
I make a statement and bring forth some prove, now it's your turn.
Lucy

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Prince Lucianus
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Message 73 of 138 (126291)
07-21-2004 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by PaulK
07-21-2004 12:13 PM


Re: Off topic request
I've seen that thread, but the sheer volume of the thread is rather intimidating . Although I'm a mediterrenean archaeologist and have been to several underwater excavations, I doubt if I can help out without actually seeing the documentary.
I'll see if I can contribute something later.
Lucy

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