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Problems with the first life

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pink sasquatch
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Message 136 of 138 (186066)
02-17-2005 1:03 AM 		Reply to: Message 129 by mihkel4397
02-16-2005 3:56 PM

Re: most conservative estimates
I provided three references in an earlier posting 02/16/05.

I know you did. You listed a 17-year-old popular press article, a textbook, and a popular religous pseudoscience book.

That's why I asked for the calculations. If you can't describe the calculations and their underlying assumptions, you shouldn't be arguing in their favor.

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Message 137 of 138 (186068)
02-17-2005 1:09 AM 		Reply to: Message 135 by JonF
02-16-2005 6:00 PM

Re: most ignorant estimates
Hey JonF,

Thanks for the info. I assumed the Schroeder book would be along those (tired old) lines.

I was particularly amused by his line:

Schroeder writes:

Can this have happened by random mutations of the genome? Not if our understanding of statistics is correct.

See, Schroeder never actually states that his understanding is correct, so I guess he's off the hook for his profound ignorance.

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Message 138 of 138 (186106)
02-17-2005 5:52 AM 		Reply to: Message 120 by mihkel4397
02-16-2005 11:56 AM

Re: there was no "first" life form
To be honest I was hoping for something from the primary literature.

TTFN,

WK

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