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Author Topic:   Thermodynamics, Abiogenesis and Evolution
Theodoric
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Message 98 of 128 (506072)
04-22-2009 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by traste
04-22-2009 12:21 AM


Not logic
First of all you need to learn what logic is.

Your quaint aphorism,

Power tends to corrupt
Knowledge is power
Therefore knowledge tends to corrupt.

is not logic.

It is an aphorism or an adage.

I could give you definitions for these words, but will leave it to you. Maybe then you might learn something.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

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Theodoric
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Message 100 of 128 (506085)
04-22-2009 10:15 AM
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04-22-2009 8:31 AM


Re: Not logic
I would not say it is a syllogism because syllogisms make concrete statements

Major premise: All M are P.
Minor premise: All S are M.
Conclusion: All S are P.

If it is a syllogism it is a very poor one and not one that can be defended logically.

Then again there are much better logicians than me here so if I am wrong please correct me.

Basically my point was that he is using false logic.


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Theodoric
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Message 117 of 128 (519746)
08-16-2009 7:57 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by Creation Guy
08-15-2009 8:48 PM


Boyles Law and the 2nd law are Laws because we can prove them. They trump theories hand down. If you have a theory which goes against, as evolution does, the laws we know - one is wrong.

I know Coyote already tried to explain laws and theories to you, but here is a site that gives a good run down.
http://www.wilstar.com/theories.htm

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The biggest difference between a law and a theory is that a theory is much more complex and dynamic. A law describes a single action, whereas a theory explains an entire group of related phenomena.

Theories never grow up to be laws.

Please explain how TOE goes against any Scientific Laws.


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