Understanding through Discussion


Welcome! You are not logged in. [ Login ]
EvC Forum active members: 87 (8994 total)
52 online now:
PaulK, Pollux (2 members, 50 visitors)
Newest Member: Juvenissun
Post Volume: Total: 879,234 Year: 10,982/23,288 Month: 234/1,763 Week: 201/390 Day: 21/69 Hour: 0/2

Announcements: Topic abandonment warning (read and/or suffer the consequences)


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   questions evolutionists can't or won't answer
crashfrog
Member (Idle past 47 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 133 of 141 (53953)
09-05-2003 12:58 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by sidelined
09-04-2003 11:41 PM


We must be able to fully define the point at which we consider something as alive as opposed to inanimate before we can give a sufficient investigation into the process.Anybody here have an idea of how we can do this?

I would suggest that those things that we call "alive" have these properties:

1) The ability to utilize energy and matter in the environment to construct/maintain itself and its functions (if any)

2) The ability to, through some process, make more of itself

3) Possession of a mechanism for heritable change

I submit that this describes everything that we refer to as alive. (I don't consider viruses or prions alive as they meet only one of these criteria. Perhaps biologists disagree.)


This message is a reply to:
 Message 131 by sidelined, posted 09-04-2003 11:41 PM sidelined has not yet responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 134 by Mammuthus, posted 09-05-2003 4:09 AM crashfrog has not yet responded
 Message 135 by Andor, posted 09-05-2003 6:22 AM crashfrog has responded

  
crashfrog
Member (Idle past 47 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 136 of 141 (53993)
09-05-2003 6:48 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by Andor
09-05-2003 6:22 AM


Is cryptolife life?

When it's a spore? I guess not. Not to me, anyway. It will be when it un-spores, though.

Suspended animation is clearly a great strategy for surviving drought, etc. But it's hardly something we'd expect to find a whole planet's ecology based on. I hardly think we're over-narrowing our search if we restrict it to life that's actually doing something.


This message is a reply to:
 Message 135 by Andor, posted 09-05-2003 6:22 AM Andor has responded

Replies to this message:
 Message 137 by Andor, posted 09-05-2003 7:29 AM crashfrog has not yet responded

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2018 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.0 Beta
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2020