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anglagard
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Message 158 of 415 (498804)
02-14-2009 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by traste
02-14-2009 3:38 AM


Re: We have the building blocks ...
traste writes:

I dont think so that you absorb your mathemathics well.Evolution implies randomness,in fact it implies that the complexities observe in life came by chance.So since the science of mathemathical probabality deal with chance events it plays a big role there.I dont hear any mathemathics supports evolution but mathemathics speak againts it.

Higher mathematics involves proofs. Provide your axioms and also your proof of this assertion.

Edited by anglagard, : replaced thus with proof


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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Message 161 of 415 (498811)
02-14-2009 4:40 AM
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02-14-2009 4:16 AM


Re: We have the building blocks ...
Jeez, what a blowhard. Got anything to back up all these assertions?


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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Message 163 of 415 (498813)
02-14-2009 4:54 AM
Reply to: Message 162 by traste
02-14-2009 4:47 AM


Re: We have the building blocks ...
blowhard writes:

Ok.But mathemathical probabilty is a high mathemathics for you?High mathemathics are like differential equation,set theory, abstract algebra,number theory...just to name a few.One typical example of the mathemathical absurdness of evolution is that amino acids could get in there proper places in one chance in 10 to the 113(ten followed by 113 zeros).Supporters of evolution acknowledge that,but any event that has one chance in 10 to the 50 is dismiss by mathemathicians as never happening.Dont you hear about that?Now I liked to have my own mathemathical proof,we know the cell contains 2000 proteins serving as enzyme,what is the mathemathical probability that they came by chance?Since they should be in there proper places the chance is 2000!A very big number isnt it?

Guess what genius, natural selection is not random so you can take all your calculations and toss them into the trash can where they belong.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 172 of 415 (498825)
02-14-2009 5:49 AM
Reply to: Message 169 by traste
02-14-2009 5:35 AM


Re: We have the building blocks ...
Blowhard writes:

First year under graduate are you kidding?It seems you are.Abstract algebra is very different in the algebra in your mind.Since you are saying that they are not high math,could you please give high math in your mind.It does not mean since you dont know those computation they dont exist isnt it?Ill challenge you mathemathically.

You appear to be quite challenged already, but if you think you can gut it out with cavediver in math or physics, I'm sure we will all find it quite humorous.


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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anglagard
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Message 176 of 415 (498829)
02-14-2009 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 170 by traste
02-14-2009 5:45 AM


Re: Conclusions
I must leave you to the more capable hands of cavediver and PaulK as they are far more knowledgeable and kinder than I am.

If you are still trolling around a week from now, perhaps that means you prefer my viciousness and then I will live up to my reputation.

Edited by anglagard, : more better grammer


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anglagard
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Message 209 of 415 (499016)
02-16-2009 1:21 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by traste
02-16-2009 12:54 AM


Re: We have the building blocks ...
traste writes:

1.And then go ahead give a mathemathical proof for evolution 2. It sounds you dont have any understanding in evolution.Im not learning mathemathics but I am a veteran in mathemathics.

Well there veteran, perhaps you could use some of your mathematical superiority to master the DBcodes on your left when you post. I don't remember anyone else who has had as much trouble, regardless of position.

Also, just to reiterate what pretty much everyone else says, proof is a concept limited to mathematics and law. There is no mathematical proof of evolution any more than there is a mathematical proof of gravity or the germ theory of disease.

Perhaps as one who appears to deny what practitioners consider ironclad evidence, you may be so kind as to offer any mathematical proof of intelligent design or Last Thursdayism.

Edited by anglagard, : grammar and a hedge


Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis Bacon

The more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza


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