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bluescat48
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Message 88 of 415 (483644)
09-23-2008 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by AlphaOmegakid
09-23-2008 3:10 PM


Re: Evidence for abiogenesis
It absolutely does my friend...... I'm afraid that you like many others in this forum and the Biogenesis thread do not understand what a spontaneous natural process is.

So, ¾ of a billion years is spontaneous?


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969


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Message 91 of 415 (483675)
09-23-2008 6:12 PM
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09-23-2008 5:41 PM


Re: Evidence for abiogenesis
Time has nothing to do with spontaneous chemical reactions and self organizing reactions. That's your category error. They could happen in an instant, or they could take millions of years for the right circumstances.

I was attempting to figure out your use of spontaneous.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969


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Message 122 of 415 (485598)
10-10-2008 12:20 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by AlphaOmegakid
10-06-2008 10:07 AM


Re: Evidence for abiogenesis
Nope. The LOB did not refute SG. Individual experiments did. The LoB was recognized to be a universal truth of nature over many years. It is a descriptive law of how nature works today and in the past, and in the future. All life comes from pre-existing life.

So then, pray tell, how did the first life on this planet occur if it had to come from pre-existing life which did not exist?


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Message 148 of 415 (498785)
02-13-2009 10:13 PM
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02-13-2009 8:41 PM


Re: Conclusions
You have nice verse no doubt you are a great benefit to the fairy tale of evolution.

At least our "Fairy tale" has some evidence to back it up where as creation or ID has none.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 185 of 415 (498843)
02-14-2009 8:26 AM
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Re: What Pasteur showed
Pasteur showed that life could not began from non life.Any it seems that you are confused of his words?

He did no such thing. He showed that such substances as rotting meat do not spontaneously change to fully formed maggots. He was not experimenting whether it was possible for substances such as amino acids, sacharrides, purines, pyrimadines, Tetra pyrrols etc could be formed and condenced into longer chains as proteins, RNA, DNA, or large tetra pyrrol substances as Chlorophyl, Heme, or cyanocobalamin.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 289 of 415 (513558)
06-29-2009 11:20 PM
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06-29-2009 9:41 PM


Re: Interactions
life is obviously much more complicated then a chance chemical reaction

Except it is not a chance chemical reaction. Most chemical substances only combine in a small number of ways.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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Message 302 of 415 (514072)
07-03-2009 12:33 PM
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07-03-2009 10:03 AM


and in all those billions of places and possibilities, only 1 spot produced life?

How do you know this. How can one know what happens in a galaxy 5 billion light years away? There may be only one planet in the universe with life or there may be billions.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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bluescat48
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Message 384 of 415 (514675)
07-10-2009 3:51 PM
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07-10-2009 4:32 AM


Re: Eternal Life
just take note that chemical interaction is spontaneous.

But if one takes this over a billion years it sort of loses the spontaninity.


There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002

Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Since Evolution is only ~90% correct it should be thrown out and replaced by Creation which has even a lower % of correctness. W T Young, 2008


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