Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 63 (9162 total)
5 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 916,397 Year: 3,654/9,624 Month: 525/974 Week: 138/276 Day: 12/23 Hour: 0/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Abiogenesis
Chiroptera
Inactive Member


Message 20 of 305 (385438)
02-15-2007 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by lovefaithhope
02-15-2007 4:46 PM


Re: only evolution people would think there is no choice
Hi, love.
If you are replying to a particular person, then use the little "reply" button that appears at the bottom right of the post to which you are replying. That will help us understand your messages by seeing to whom exactly you are conversing.
Also, there are already two people here who do not use proper capitalization. Please do not follow their example. They are not good people.
And use punctuation, too. These are not silly rules; they really do help us old folk in reading and comprehending your message. Refraining from capitalization or punctuation is not cool, nor is it "easier" -- it is just plain inconsiderate to other people.

This world can take my money and time/ But it sure can't take my soul. -- Joe Ely

This message is a reply to:
 Message 16 by lovefaithhope, posted 02-15-2007 4:46 PM lovefaithhope has not replied

Chiroptera
Inactive Member


Message 21 of 305 (385439)
02-15-2007 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by lovefaithhope
02-15-2007 5:19 PM


This proves my point!
You see? Without punctuation or capitalization, this post is just unreadable.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 18 by lovefaithhope, posted 02-15-2007 5:19 PM lovefaithhope has not replied

Chiroptera
Inactive Member


Message 25 of 305 (385448)
02-15-2007 5:42 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by lovefaithhope
02-15-2007 5:39 PM


Call me anything, just not late for dinner.
quote:
...message me when your done playing in the sand box
Yeah, I'll do that.

This world can take my money and time/ But it sure can't take my soul. -- Joe Ely

This message is a reply to:
 Message 24 by lovefaithhope, posted 02-15-2007 5:39 PM lovefaithhope has not replied

Chiroptera
Inactive Member


Message 40 of 305 (394488)
04-11-2007 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by jjsemsch
04-11-2007 3:02 PM


Re: Abiogenesis Problems
Hi, jj. Welcome to EvC.
quote:
As best as I understand it the current model for abiogenesis happened in a primordial soup.
Is it? I couldn't find a can of Cambell's Primordial Soup at the supermarket, so I couldn't check the ingredients.
-
quote:
So in response to MattP even if you can create DNA or RNA strands without the mechanics of a cell it is completely useless, unless the cell is already in existence to interpret that information.
Not necessarily. Cech won the Nobel Prize in chemistry by demonstrating that RNA molecules can be self-catalyzing. This makes the RNA World hypothesis a contendor for a theory of the origin of life.
Of course, it's also possible that the first proto-living replicating chemical systems may not have used DNA or RNA. They may have began to make use of the available amino acids to begin the construction of DNA or RNA molecules to assist in their proto-metabolic processes, and eventually these molecules began to be used as the means of storing hereditary information.
All in all, not a lot of definitive information is known about the origins of life. A lot of pathways are still possible, there are key steps that are still not understood. A lot of good research is still to be done for the next several generations of biochemists at least.

Actually, if their god makes better pancakes, I'm totally switching sides. -- Charley the Australopithecine

This message is a reply to:
 Message 37 by jjsemsch, posted 04-11-2007 3:02 PM jjsemsch has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 42 by RAZD, posted 04-11-2007 8:41 PM Chiroptera has not replied

Chiroptera
Inactive Member


Message 52 of 305 (394573)
04-12-2007 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 48 by Rob
04-12-2007 9:32 AM


quote:
If they are able to produce some burnt slime after zapping a chemical soup (while making massive and unverifiable assumptions about theoretical atmospheric conditions on the early earth), can they really say that 'such an experiment proves that it is possible without intelligent guidance'?
Well, yes. If the composition and conditions in the experiment are believed to be similar to that in the early earth, and the processes mimic what are believed to be processes operating on the early earth, then, yes, it proves it is possible.

Actually, if their god makes better pancakes, I'm totally switching sides. -- Charley the Australopithecine

This message is a reply to:
 Message 48 by Rob, posted 04-12-2007 9:32 AM Rob has not replied

Chiroptera
Inactive Member


Message 149 of 305 (395209)
04-15-2007 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Rob
04-15-2007 4:10 PM


Please don't reply to that, I am only making a point.
That pretty much makes you a dick, then, doesn't it?

Actually, if their god makes better pancakes, I'm totally switching sides. -- Charley the Australopithecine

This message is a reply to:
 Message 148 by Rob, posted 04-15-2007 4:10 PM Rob has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 151 by Rob, posted 04-15-2007 4:29 PM Chiroptera has not replied

Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024