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Author Topic:   The new teachings of Jesus
riVeRraT
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Message 10 of 106 (326268)
06-26-2006 1:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
06-23-2006 10:21 AM


Sounds like if it did happen, it would be by God allowing it to happen.

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riVeRraT
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Message 16 of 106 (326996)
06-27-2006 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Jazzns
06-27-2006 11:12 AM


Re: Let he who without edit, make the first add
Plenty more additions to come I presume. The NIV is a good example of the ever so slight evolution of the message of the bible. Many things are "paraphrased" in the NIV in order to blur the inconsistencies in the bible. It is what the writers "meant" rather than what they said.
If you met some tribesmen in the jungle, and your only way to keep them from killing was to preach the gospel to them, would you say:
a. Jesus came and showed us the way, it is in writing, or
b. I know your God, and He has a son, he left carvings on the trail for us to follow.
(I give credit to the movie End of the Spear for that line, good movie btw)

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riVeRraT
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Message 21 of 106 (327290)
06-28-2006 6:30 PM
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06-28-2006 8:50 AM


Re: Let he who without edit, make the first add
Preaching is different than the issue of the text of the Bible. The NIV IS different.
I did not find any difference in the meaning of the example you gave.
I used to get hung up on all the different translations, and why there were so many. Translating from another language, and another time is difficult at best. Some Greek words have five English meanins.
There is also 6 billion people in the world, and just maybe we need all these different translations. 2 people could read the same sentence and interpret it differently. So you should just pick the translation that you feel most comfortable with, and start from there.
It's what's in your heart, and your desire to seek God that will get you the true word of God. God places a desire for us to know Him. It's just up to you to accept it or not. I think any bible is a good enough plce to start looking for Him. I feel I understand the bible so much more now, with the help of the Holy Spirit.
As far as the new teachings of Jesus, I don't even see the need to add something to the bible. There are plenty of books out there, where people relate the word of God to today. Take a look at the Purpose Driven Life, a huge best seller. I think that book is great.

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riVeRraT
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Message 24 of 106 (327403)
06-29-2006 6:02 AM
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06-28-2006 7:49 PM


Re: Let he who without edit, make the first add
Still doesn't matter to me, it's obvious that it is all past tense.
Gen 2:4 This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created.
That pretty much sets the stage for all of Gen 2. It's all past tense. What's the difference if we put had, or not? It's still going to be past tense.
I mean are you saying you can't believe in God now because of the word had appearing in the NIV?

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riVeRraT
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Message 31 of 106 (327722)
06-30-2006 9:45 AM
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06-29-2006 8:05 AM


Re: Let he who without edit, make the first add
Many Christians like to claim that the Bible is the 100% inerrant word of God.
I am not one of those "christians".
I do believe you can find the word of God, by reading the bible, if you pray to God and ask Him, what it means.

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riVeRraT
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Message 33 of 106 (328380)
07-03-2006 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Jazzns
06-30-2006 4:15 PM


Re: Let he who without edit, make the first add
Saying the bible is inherently right, or saying it is inherently wrong, IMO is wrong either way.
To me it is impossible to be a literalist.

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riVeRraT
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Message 79 of 106 (354172)
10-04-2006 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Jazzns
06-29-2006 11:03 AM


Re: Let he who without edit, make the first add
nice link.
I found this one to be just amazing, and was not aware of it:
” Matthew 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
” Error: The NIV omits For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
I mean, many songs have been written with that line in it, what were they thinking?

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riVeRraT
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Message 81 of 106 (354428)
10-05-2006 12:29 PM
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10-05-2006 11:49 AM


Re: Let he who without edit, make the first add
Absolutely, and it is the same reason I am not a literalist.
I wondered why God would allow so many translations. I prayed about it. What I thought was an answer was that the translation of the words that the original was written in, can have several meanings. Maybe all those meanings are needed, since there are so many different people.

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