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Nighttrain
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02-06-2007 2:03 AM 		Reply to: Message 49 by Doddy
02-05-2007 10:29 PM

Re: trinity and islam
Howdy, Brissie Boy.
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The Johannine Comma as the 1John verse is called, has been dodgy ever since Erasmus lost his bet and was forced to insert it in a new edition.
Quoting Metzger-The Text of the New Testament-p101-'Among the thousands of Greek manuscripts examined since the time of Erasmus, only three others are known to contain this spurious passage. they are Greg.88, a twelfth-century manuscript which had the JC written in the margin by a 17th century hand, Tisch.w110 (16th century),and Greg.629 (14th century).
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Nighttrain
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Message 52 of 64 (383403)
02-07-2007 10:35 PM 		Reply to: Message 50 by Nighttrain
02-06-2007 2:03 AM

Re: trinity and islam
ABE: finally getting it right. The JC is 'in Heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth.' Bridging verses 7-8. (KJV)Sorry, folks.
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05-10-2007 8:35 AM 		Reply to: Message 58 by truthlover
05-08-2007 5:55 PM

Re: Early Christianities
Hi, TL, when quoting early Church fathers, have you any idea of what exists today in the originals, or are we just using quotes by others such as Eusebius. IOW, copies of copies are all that is extant.
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05-11-2007 4:50 AM 		Reply to: Message 60 by Equinox
05-10-2007 1:26 PM

Re: Early Christianities
My “competing and very diverse Christianities” describes more the time in the first and second centuries
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Epiphanius apparently detailed 80 'heresies'. Were they all Christian, or included pagan beliefs? Is his Panarion available online?
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From Roger Pearse`s site
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Bishop Epiphanius of Salamis wrote a huge work in 3 books cataloguing 80 heresies. The work has recently been translated into English for the first time - the only complete translation in a modern language. (Copyright prevents more than extracts being made available). The title of the work is Panarion, meaning Medicine-chest, but the Latin translations of the 16th century had the title Adversus Haereses, meaning Against the heresies.
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Here Epiphanius of Salamis: Panarion/Adversus Haereses (Excerpts)
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