Does the Bible say the Earth was created in 6 days, 6000 years ago?

Hi Granny, Actually evening and morning only make half a day.The beginning of the next 24 hour period begin with the morning mentioned in verse 5.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi DA, It's a shame the MT was a thousand years after Jesus or He could have quoted from it rather than the LXX.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Integral,Welcome to EvC.Since you did not state the Title of the topic in the body of the OP I want to address that question."Does the Bible say the Earth was created in 6 days, 6,000 years ago."Short answer, NO.Long answer, NO.Many believe that it does and teach it. But that does not make it so. That is a declarative statement of something that has taken place by God's actions.It is not an introduction to something that is going to happen.Now if someone here can tell me when the beginning was I would be delighted.Since God claims to be from everlasting to everlasting.There could be no beginning.Therefore the universe has always been here in some form.It just did not have to be in the form we see it today.Could Genesis 1:2 have taken place 6,000 years ago? That is a possiblity.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Rrhain,I have seen where you mentioned the sunlight of Genesis several times and thought I would comment.First one would have to believe the creation story given in Genesis 1:2-2:3 is the original creation. Which it isn't.But that is neither here nor there.My question concerns 65 million years ago when we had the the Chicxulub crater at the tip of Mexico's Yucatán Peninsula created by an asteriod. This fellow was 4 to 9 miles in diameter. This dude caused a lot of problems.The Shiva crater which is located under the Arabian Sea off the coast of India near Bombay dates from the same time period. This dude was 25 miles in diameter and penetrated the earths crust by 7.5 miles. The dust and debris put in the atmosphere would have blocked most of the sunlight for months.How did any vegetation survive?Since it did then it would be very possible that the sun that was made to shine through on day four could have been all that was needed.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Percy, Genesis 2:4 declares these are the generations (history) of the day the heavens and the earth was created.The heaven and the earth was created in Genesis 1:1 not Genesis 1:2.Now as to the things recorded in Genesis 1:2 through Genesis 2:3 I do think they happened in the not to distant past. I am sorry Percy but I was putting forth an example of a time when the sun did not shine on the earth for several months because of the debris in the atmosphere.If there was a great catrosphic event between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, what would be the difference?In Genesis 1:16 it does not say the sun was created.In Genesis 1:1 created = ‘ transliteration bara'In Genesis 1:16 made = transliteration `asahIn verse 16 the writer was not saying the sun was created but that it was made visible. Had he wanted to say it was created he would have use ‘ as he did in Genesis 1:1.In other words the sun was already in existence and shining it was just obscured and there needed to be some work done so it could do the job it was intended to do.Now as to the OP No the Bible does not say anything about how old the earth is.It does say the heavens and the earth was created in the beginning.When was the beginning? Only God knows.Some will say but we can extrapolate backward using the ages given in the Bible and come up with a number of 6000 years more or less.But that does not give the age of the earth.It does give us the record that man has provided for us of the age of some of the men who have lived on earth. Is it accurate? Maybe, maybe not. But it says nothing as to the age of the universe and the earth.God Bless,Edited by ICANT, : added ? mark

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Buz, Buz in Message 35 I stated: Then in Message 98 I stated: I don't know how I could make my position any clearer.In the beginning whenever that was God created the heaven and the earth.I have no clue as to when that was.Now Genesis 1:2 I believe to have taken place in the not to distant past.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi AIG, It comes from the Hebrew word definition, to be observed translated made.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Percy, I know of that one and two others. YEC version young everything made to look old.OEC several different versions with all kind of long days or time periods.Is there something besides those? But I am not trying to maintain an illusion.The universe was created in Genesis 1:1 in the beginning.
Man does not have a number big enough to tell me when that was.I also believe that Genesis 1:2 - Genesis 2:3 describes what has been called the 7 days of Moses. An event that took place about 6000 years ago.I am in total agreement that the creation of the heaven and the earth did not take place 6000 years ago. But I don't have to persuade anybody of anything. That is not my job.I tried that 45 years ago and come to the conclusion a man convinced against his will is unconvinced still.But I will keep telling people my view.God Bless and may the coming year be the best ever at EvC.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Rrhain, Will you please explain to me how God began with the evening and ended with the morning 12 hours later and that makes a literal 24 hour day?The only way I can find a period of light is it took place prior to the evening of Genesis 1:2 as evening had already come.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Peg, I will not speak for Rrhain, but he was speaking to me and he was quoting the KJV Bible.It does not say proved to be formless and waste.Neither does the Hebrew Text.I don't know where you got your prove from just as I don't know where 'was' came from that appears in most of the translations.In Genesis there are over 250 occurrences of was.Two of them are as single words.1.The Hebrew word =definition=to be, become, come to pass, is translated was that preceeds without form. The was that preceeds upon the face of the deep, is not the translation of a Hebrew word.2.The same Hebrew word is translated was here as in Genesis 1:2.3.This one ends a phrase
Was here = Definition = being, existence, substance, there is or are.Was in the rest of the entries are inside of a phrase and is not a Hebrew word that is translated.You stated that verse 2 was the beginning of the account and that the earth already existed.Verse 2 is the beginning of something but it is not the beginning of the events that took place in Genesis 1:1 as that was a completed action.If you look for it you can find a description of what happened in Genesis 1:1. I think it would be called history or generations as the Hebrews reffered to it.When you referred to "we" I hope you was talking about the mouse you have in your pocket. Because you certainly was not talking about any Hebrew scholar I know or myself.Genesis 1:1 is a declarative statement.It declares (time) in the beginning.
It declares (who) God.
It declares (action) created.
It declares (subject) the heaven, and the earth.That states that the heaven exists.
That states that the earth exists.It does not state this is something that is going to happen at a future time.Nothing else is needed to tell us what happened in the beginning.If your God is so small it took Him more than one try to create the heaven and the earth, He is too small to save you and give you eternal life.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Buz, I am definately not YEC.I believe Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth".I believe the heaven contained everything it does today.I believe the earth contained what we are told in Genesis 2:4=4:26 in the light portion that ended with the evening we find in the darkness of Genesis 1:2 as declared by God in Genesis 1:5. When he said, "the evening and the morning were the first day".So from Genesis 1:1 we have God's eternal day interupted by evening and moring of the first day as you and I know it.When the evening of time as man knows it comes to an end we will have a resumption of God's eternal day. Which has never come to a close and never will. It has just been interupted by a short segment of time as man knows it.I know we differ on this issue. I also know that as far as eternity is concerned it makes no difference.All we have to understand now is that "in the beginning God".We do not have to understand how or why only that God Is the "I AM".There are only a few that will understand what I have said and they won't need any clarification so you don't need to reply unless you desire to do so.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Rrhain, What does Judaism have to do with it?Are you telling me God went by the Jewish calendar? God said the evening and the morning constituted the first day.He did not say the evening and the evening constituted the first day.God declared the first day ended when morning came.Now if you start at that point the evening that followed 12 hours later and the morning that followed the evening 12 hours later you have the second day. I don't have a problem.Evening always comes at the end of the light portion of the day.Morning always comes at the end of the dark portion of the day.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Buz, You guys are sparing over the wrong word.Without form = from an unused root meaning to lie waste.Void = ‘ = emptiness, void, waste. Primary meaning emptiness.So we have something that lies in waste and is empty.Now if you get to the word that everything hinges on you might find the answer to the dilemma.The Hebrew word = to be, become, come to pass, exist, happen, fall out.This particular word was translated was in Genesis 1:2.The second was in Genesis 1:2 does not have a Hebrew word it is translated from.The phrase "was upon the face" comes from the Hebrew word = face.So "was upon the" was provided by the translators.There is one other instance of was being translated from in the book of Genesis. The serpent had to become more subtile than any beast.Because God made him also.So back to Genesis 1:2 I would translate it:Earth became formless empty darkness face deep Spirit God hover upon face water.Each of these words is the meaning of a Hebrew word in the text. Everything else was added by the translators.If I was going to try to improve the readability I would say it says: The Earth became formless and empty, darkness was on the face of the deep. The Spirit of God hovered over the face of the water. God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Peg, And if we read it as a declarative statement which it is.It declares God created the heaven and the earth in Genesis 1:1.You need no other verse to tell you God created the heaven and the earth as they exist.You can find an event described in Genesis 1:2 through Genesis 2:3 as to how Genesis 1:1 was achieved.You can also find an account in Genesis 2:4 that says "These are the generations of the heaven and the earth in the day the Lord God created the heaven and earth." Which took place in Genesis 1:1.Since I believe in a literal Genesis account I believe the history of Genesis1:1 should follow verse 1 but for some reason it doesn't.
I guess that is because it did not suit someone for it to be there as it defintely claims to be the history (generations) of 1:1.God Bless,Edited by ICANT, : correct spelling

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Peg, You can apply anything you want too. But if it is not correct it makes no difference.Lets play a game.The first book of the Bible. The second book of the Bible. The third book of the Bible. The fourth book of the Bible. The fifth book of the Bible. Your theory being that the Bible is like all other literature is fasinating. And if you are correct the above 5 entries are the titles of each of the first 5 books of the Bible.You are absolutly correct it makes perfect nonsense to me.My thoughts.I really thought the first book covered a little more than the creation of the earth. Things like the flood, Man trying to build a tower to heaven, Man being scattered all over the face of the earth, and then the earth being divided. I must be thinking of a different book.I thought the second book was concerned with the children of God leaving Egypt rather than the names of the children of Israel who enter Egypt because of the famine. I must be thinking of a different book.I always thought the third book was where the law was given at Sinai. Maybe I am mistaken.I thought the fourth book was about The, numbering of the people at Sinai, and their journey's before crossing Jordan. I must have been wrong.I thought the fifth book was Moses reviewing all their journey's during the 40 years and and a detailed law-code by which the Children of Israel are to live in the Promised Land. Maybe I was mistaken.I believe that is the reason the first 5 books are named as they are.Peg when you try to make a verse of scripture say what you want it to because it suits your personal belief you will get into trouble.So quit treating the Bible like any other book.IT IS NOT LIKE ANY OTHER BOOK.It is a collection of 66 books written by many different authors over a period of 1500 years. When rightly divided and understood there is not one contradiction in it. That in itself is nothing short of amazing.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."