A Genesis Day and the Age of the Earth: what does the Bible say?

Actually, it does, there's only two kinds of "light", "Natural" and "Spiritual".Mt 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light;Joh 8:12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world:Re 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;Re 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.You ask, "What is spirit"??It's that part of this "pile of dirt" we call a "Body" which give "life" to the "dust of the earth".Ge 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;and man became a living soul.And which causes death of the body when separated from the body, returning it to "Dust".Ge 3:19 for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.Without God's spirit, there would be "NO LIFE","MOTHER" nature can't give birth to life without a "FATHER". (God/spirit)A simple fact, evolutionist ignore.

I believe the creation week took 7,000 years and 5,9--? years approximate to the present (meaning were nearing the end of the 6th day of the second week).If adam great 5 1/2 days until the birth of Christ plus if his age into the 6th day was 500 years plus 5000 year from the beginning of the 6th day = 5,500 + 500? + 5,000 + 2008 = 13,000? years. Adam according to this prophecy was saved by the Word 2,008 years ago. The clock is running out for the 6th creation day of the second week before the beginning of the 7th day of the second creation week.Israel giving up gaza is believed to be a prophecy signaling the coming apocalypse and the end of the 6th creation day of the second week of creation. Interesting times are already at hand with the economic crisis, russia poised for her destruction, etc...After Christs thousand year rule is not this the 8th day the great white throne judgement? Then after the accounting of all the souls the new jerusalem a city coming out of the heavens where there will be no need for sun or the moon sure sounds like a time of non-counting, eternal, no years, months, nor days.The Lord is now in his glorified body so a thousand years is but a watch in the night. Peter seems to be saying to not be slackers concerning the Lord's return because in his resurrected body time is like a thousand years is but one day in our time and soon time in the new heavens and new earth is he saying that we too will be part of God time and not earth time? Whatever the rapture and the reaping of those left behind join up with Christ were talking 3 1/2 year s or less till the end of 6th creation day into the second week of creation.Seems Peter is talking more about the 8th day when the heavens shall be dissolved and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. Peter is reminding us there is a promise for those staying righteous to the end of ones life of new heavens and a new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness. Peter believed it so strongly he asked to be crucified upside down, etc...What wonderous times were in that those of you that miss the rapture (left behinders) if not killed in one of the angelic trumpets or one of the seven seals you'd still have a chance to become a martyr for Christ in these very last days of the 6th day well into the second week of creation. The god of this world (satan) his days are numbered and it all about the coming reigning of Christ when the kingdoms and the nations of this earth become the Lords. Thats Jesus at the very end of the 6th day and the thousand year reign of Christ is the 7th day with the Lord God fullfilling all prophecy such as his soon to come reigning over the whole earth from Jerusalem.I see the seventh day of the second week of creation starting the moment Christ sets his feet on the mount of olives. Zechariah 14:5. If I would not of seen this text given to Enoch by God I too would share your belief of the creation week being 24 hour days. All that the bible too me is saying is the separation of light from darkness the rotation of the earth was started on the first creation day. I'm not saying the days were different or the God day is different only that in the bible were given two days one is the 24 hour day and the other is the 1000 year God day that we see expressed as the creation week being 7000 years in the books of Enoch.When you read 2 peter 3:8 about the God day about the Lord not slack and that day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night in which the heavens shall pass away. Is peter not talking about the 8th day it does not sound like he is talking about the apocalyspe nor the 1000 year reign of Christ but a time after when the earths heavens will pass away. If were nearing 13,000 years from the beginning of the earth and Christ is going to reign for 1,000 years the eight day where time will be eternal happens comes after the thousand year reign of Christ. Peter is looking for a new earth and a new heaven 2 peter 3:12 is Peter looking to the eighth day to a time of not counting eternal, etc.... akjv rev 21:1P.S. Interestingly Jesus fullfilled the prophecy of the calling my Son out of Egypt. However what is interesting Adam was not to be saved until the completition of the 5 1/2 days which too me happened when Christ was in the earth for those 3 days. The souls released from abrahams bosom not saying Adam has a resurrected body yet but that his spirit is now up in heaven with the Lord.Note: Whats more interesting too me perhaps no one else? is doing the math if Christ was born 4 B.C. and were now into 2009 that to try to nail the time when the 5 1/2 days were completed you only have to subtract 9+4 = 13 from 2009 and you have 1996. Since Christ resurrected himself from the grave 3 days when he was 33 years old. 33-13=20 years left over. 1996 + 20 = the year 2016 as the end of the 6th day of the second creation week. If the math would hold up that might mean 2009 might be the start time of the apocalypse.I just thought it quite interesting due to how the stock market is crashing world wide, etc... Rapture might well happen quite quickly after the sixth seal but before the seventh seal and those 7 angelic trumpet. It just seems too me rapture will happen sooner than mid trib but not necessarily pre-trib unless the false messiah treaty with Israel mentioned in the book of Daniel does not happen until after the sixth seal? Too me the earthquake, that darkens the sun will be right at the beginning of the tribulation not necessarily pre-trib but not mid trib nor post trib pre wrath, etc... matthew 24:29 and 40-43. For those ready with oil in their lamps look up for your redemption draweth near, etc ...The start date of the seventh day of the second creation week sounds like approximately 2017 when Christ will reign over all the nations of the earth but no man but the Father in heaven knows the day nor the hour but by the math we seem to be getting quite close to the start date of the tribulation / rapture, etc... I'm leaning rapture will be around april 5th due christ said it was finished on the cross if he died on a wednesday and not on a friday thats comes out to april 5th. Which if his death closed out the 4th creation day then the end of the 6th creation day will be approximately april 5th 2016 and the start of the apocolypse / rapture approximately april 5th 2009? This makes the start date of the eighth day happening approximately 3017 on approximately april 5th when time will be a time of non counting, eternal, the final judgement of the second resurrection folk, etc....The New Jerusalem, etc... I might not have all the times right because no man but the Father knows the day or the hour but the Father but this is how I see it all coming down, etc...==================================================================Chapter 33God shows Enoch the age of this world, its existence of seven thousand years, and the eighth thousand is the end, neither years, nor months, nor weeks, nor days1And I appointed the eighth day also, that the eighth day should be the first-created after my work, and that the first seven revolve in the form of the seventh thousand, and that at the beginning of the eighth thousand there should be a time of not-counting, endless, with neither years nor months nor weeks nor days nor hourshttp://reluctant-messenger.com/2enoch01-68.htm#Chapter11Chapter IIIConcerning the promise of the great five and a half days.
1 God said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and years, and you and your descendants shall live and walk in them, until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send the Word that created you, and against which you have transgressed, the Word that made you come out of the garden, and that raised you when you were fallen.2 Yes, the Word that will again save you when the five and a half days are fulfilled."3 But when Adam heard these words from God, and of the great five and a half days, he did not understand the meaning of them.4 For Adam was thinking there would be only five and a half days for him until the end of the world.5 And Adam cried, and prayed to God to explain it to him.6 Then God in his mercy for Adam who was made after His own image and likeness, explained to him, that these were 5,000 and 500 years; and how One would then come and save him and his descendants.http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/...book/adameve/adameve1.htmlA terrible warning: 'Gaza Will Be Forsaken' . . .Recently the world watched as all the Jews in Gaza were forcibly removed from their homes and their land ... even the dead Jews were forcibly dug up from their graves and removed from Gaza. This 'uprooting' of the Jews from Gaza which the whole world watched on the news may be a much more 'significant' prophetic event than most realize, and the Bible warns there is more to come . . .In the book of Zephaniah, God warns Gaza would one day 'be forsaken' (yes, that same Gaza you have now been watching on the world news). Gaza is in the land which was given to the tribe of Judah (Joshua 15:1-12), and one of Messiah's titles is "The Lion of the Tribe of Judah." The Bible links the forsaking of Gaza to the coming 'Apocalypse,' which is also called 'The Day of Wrath' and the 'Day of the Lord's Anger." From these following passages (Zephaniah 2:1-7),http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/...1%20Israel%20Jerusalem.htmlEdited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.Edited by johnfolton, : No reason given.

But where does it say the 1st 3 days had spiritual light?

7th DAY IS THOUSANDS OF YEARS“YOM” IS THE HEBREW TERM FOR DAY Usually meaning a 24 hour day or the daylight portion. Sometimes, though, YOM is longer, as: In the day you eat from it you will positively die. This is clarified by 2 Peter 3:8: "a day with the Lord is as a thousand years." Adam lived 930 years, others longer. but none passed the 1,000 year “day” limit.This use of YOM is in the immediate context of the creation account.Jehovah’s rest day began after His creation of Eve, His final work of day 6A YOM 10 YEARS LONG! At Zephaniah 1:7-8,13 Jerusalem's destruction is foretold
"For the DAY of Jehovah is near ... And it must occur on the DAY of Jehovah’s sacrifice I will give attention to the princes and to the sons of the king their wealth must be for pillage and their houses for a desolate waste2 Kings 24 tabulates Jerusalem’s destruction Nebuchadnezzar’s 9th to 19th yearsElsewhere YOM applies to periods longer than 24 hours.GOD’S REST CONTINUED 41 CENTURIES AFTER ADAM: Hebrews 3&4 NEW ENGLISH BIBLEI was indignant with that generation and said, . they shall never enter MY REST
The promise of entering HIS REST remains open .
We who have become believers, who enter THE REST
Yet God’s work had been finished ever since the world was created;
does not Scripture somewhere speak thus of the 7th day:
”God rested from all his work on the 7th day’? --
again in the passage above we read, ”They shall never enter MY REST.’
The fact remains that someone must enter it
A SABBATH REST STILL AWAITS the people of God;
Anyone who enters GOD'S REST, rests from his own work as God did from his.
LET US MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ENTER INTO THAT REST [Begun in Eden & continuing]By serving God, imitating Christ, & laying aside personal ambitions, we enter into the rest of God begun in Eden. God’s Sabbath continues, in which we work while He rests from Earthly creative activities.When Jehovah's Sabbath concludes, it will be as if Adam had never sinned!
Christ’s saving of the world will be complete 1 Cor 15;22-26 explains: "He must reign until he has put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death."JEHOVAH’S PURPOSE FOR THE EARTH & MANKIND DECLARED ON DAY 6
"Let us make man in our image and likeness and let them have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and the domestic animals and all the earth. And God proceeded to create the man in his image . Further God blessed them and God said to them: Be fruitful and become many and fill the earth"IT WILL BE FULFILLED! Isaiah 45;18 "He formed it to be inhabited"
Isaiah 55:11 "So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall accomplish that which I please & shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it"Christ: "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth" Matthew 5:5"The righteous shall inherit the earth and dwell therein FOREVER"
Psalm 37:9, 11, 22, 29, 34"The heavens are the heavens of Jehovah, but the earth hath he given to the children of men" Psalm 115:16"The righteous shall never be removed, but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth" Proverb 10:30"Earth shall be full of knowledge of the glory of Jehovah as the waters cover the sea" Habakkuk 2:14I personally believe the international chaos & consternation we now see is
clear fulfillment of Christ's prophecies at Matthew 24 & Luke 21. We're at the end of this wicked civilization, but not the end of God's planet, our eternal home under the Messiah! THE 7TH DAY CONTINUES, WE’LL HAVE TO WAIT TO LEARN ITS LENGTHAt Genesis 3:16 Jehovah promised a Seed to bruise the serpent's head.
Christ came 4,100 years later plus 2,000 since and Satan is still at large. Jehovah is PATIENT! 2 Peter 3:9Regards to ALL! CHEMSCIENCE

Ge 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.Mt 5:16 Let your light (SPIRIT OF GOD) so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

All it says it "let there be light" not let there be "spiritual light for 3 days until I create the Sun".

You would have to understand how the Bible is written to know what it means.And it's a book that can't be read/understood as any other book, it's only "Revealed" to those of "FAITH",which sits it apart from all other books.Lu 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

We're pretty much in agreement, even arriving at the same conclusions but for different reasons.This G-7 meeting of the world bankers is to combine the banks of the USA with the world banks which is controlled by the "Bank of International settlement", sitting up control of governments/nations/people by controlling their "ECONOMY",a "Government of the banks, by the banks, and for the banks",a "ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT".This prophecy is being fulfilled even as we speak.God said the earth would "work six days" and the "Seventh day" being the MK (Mill Kingdom), "HER BRANCH" (Israel restored as a nation/valley of bones) would be the "last generation", so these two prophecies have to occur at the same time, withing a narrow time frame, end of the six days/Israel restored, 1948 is well within that time frame.http://i27.tinypic.com/2ymvzx1.jpgIf "Her branch" is not to pass as "His branch" didn't, 1948 + 70 = 2018, minus 7 years for the rapture, 2011-2012, if not "BEFORE".One of the many ways the church "conforms to Jesus image", is to be "Resurrected", (back on earth/First Resurrection) "Early in the morning" of the "THIRD DAY", in this case it's the third thousandth year day, or 7th day (MK). Jesus was born/crucified in the evening of the fourth day, 5th, 6th, 7th day.http://i25.tinypic.com/1znaptj.jpgJesus spent "TWO DAYS" with the "Samaritan woman" (prefigure Gentile church/Bride of Christ) before returning to the "JEWS". (trib period)Ho 6:2 After two days (5th, 6th) will he revive us: (Israel) in the third day (7th) he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.God/Jesus doesn't deal with both the Israel/Gentiles at the same time, in the same time frame, one reason the "Rapture" (fulness of the Gentiles) must occur before the trib starts.Each "FEAST" corresponds to a major events in the NT, the "LAST TRUMP" (feast of trumpets) of the "COMFORTER" will rapture the church, Israel will go back under the "Law and Prophet" system of the OT to finish the trib.Israel won't hear/listen to the "voice of Jesus". (Comforter)http://i25.tinypic.com/2e0mp6t.jpgThe first five events in the NT occurred on the "Exact dates" given for their corresponding "Feast dates".The "Feast of Trumpets" is the start of a "NEW YEAR" on the Jewish calender, but since their calendar doesn't precisely match the "moons rotation", they wait until "TWO WITNESSES" bear witness to the "NEW MOON" before the Sanhedrin, no one knows the "DAY AND HOUR" this will occur from year to years.Taken "IN CONTEXT" with everything else, Jesus statement about the "DAY AND HOUR" could be a "Vailed reference" as to when the rapture would occur, rather than a complete secret.

In Chapter 65 of your referenced book of Enoch I find the following: In verse 3 it says the Lord divided time.Since there is no time other than eternity before this division I will assume He is dividing eternity.He divided it into fixed years, fixed months, and fixed days.He appointed seven fixed days.In these days He appointed fixed hours.Could you explain why your 1000 year God day is not included in this division of time?Could you also explain why it seems chapter 65 contradicts chapter 33?BTW thanks for the website: The Reluctant Messenger of Science and Religion: Science and the World's Religions are pieces to a puzzle that need each other to form a complete picture. It is the first site that I have found that mirrors close to what I believe about the Genesis creation. Have you read all of it?I believe there was a period of light in eternal time lasting until the evening of the first day concluded by 12 hours of darkness completing day one in Genesis 1:5.Day 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, were all 24 hour days.In the future there will be a new heaven and a new earth, and there will be no sea. Revelation 21:1.The new heaven and new earth will have no night. There will only be light. If there is no dark periods only light there will be no time as we know it. There will only be the continuation of eternal time.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi bluescat48, cat there is no verse in Genesis 1:2 through Genesis 1:31 that says anything about the sun being brought into existence. That is what create, Hebrew ‘ bara' means.The only things in Genesis 1:2 through 1:31 that was said to be created was. Verse 22 seems to qualify what was created in verse 21. These are the only things created in Gen. 1:2 - 1:31. Everything that was not said to be created (brought into existence) was already in existence, they may not have been visible but they existed prior to Genesis 1:2.The sun, moon and stars were not created on day 4 in Genesis 1:16.
They were made to be visible on day 4. If they had been created, ‘ would have been used instead of which has nothing to do with bringing into existence.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hey, John:I like your crystalizing statement: "Government of the Banks, by the Banks, and for the Banks"!"No man should be able to buy or to sell save he that hath the mark, even the name of the" Rev 13:17No doubt you know about the Amero and the North American Union.
We're almost there! Soon!Thanx for your replychemscience

That post was from Me4HimBut thanks anyway. Yep, I well aware of the Amero and the North American Union.But those are just "Sign post" telling me that we're "almost home", not far to go. I suppose it would be a good idea to "Sign" my post. Me4Him

Think he just talking about how we experience time to have meaning for our day to day lives.When talking about prophecy he uses words like 1 week prophecy of Daniel to mean 7 years Daniel 9:27 when the peace treaty with Israel is signed it starts the tribulation of the apocalypse.When Christ steps on the mount of olives that will fullfill the 70 week prophecy. It says in akjv matthew 24 that this generation will not all pass away and were the generation. Lots of theories but it all seems based on the land being the Lords and Zechariah 14:5 has it that Jerusalem will be taken just before the Lord God sets his feet upon the mount of olives.We'll here's another senerio based on days. In 1967 Jerusalem became part of Israel add 49 years to the jubilee and you come to 2016. Given that the jubilee year is the year right after the 49 th year you have the 50th year being the year of jubilee when the land will reverts back (like gaza) it seems you have 2017 the year of jubilee.If you subtract 7 years from 2016 you have 2009 being the year the apocalypse starts rapture, etc... Thats kind of how I see it however in heaven we will know all but perhaps its a bit like Paul said in this life we see things not clearly but in heaven all things will be clear.In 1 Corinthians 13:12 we hear the Apostle Paul say "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known."P.S. If rapture happens at the last trump of God by the book of the revelation the last trump of God " rapture " appears to happen before the first angel even sounds the first angelic trumpet after the opening of the seventh seal. Thus after the sixth seals opened appears to start the tribulation and immediately after the Lords last trump the gathering of the elect from the four corners of the earth? Thus are we all in for a big earthquake? matthew 24:29-31 says immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun be darkened and the moon not give its light And then the Son of man come in the clouds sounding his trumpet and the angels gathering the elect from the four corners of the earth and interesting seems to agree with revelation chapter 7:1 & matthew 24:31. If rapture happens in 2009 the feast of trumpets is September 19th 2009?It just seems to me everyone is looking more to a mid trib rapture or post trib pre wrath rapture thus are those folk looking for a pre-trib rapture more ready? Watching, etc...When the false messiah signs a treaty for with conditions of peace with Israel is when the apocalypse 7 year clock starts however "now" is the time were instructed to watch. Get earthquake coverage on your insurance policy better yet get oil for your lamps and look up cause the bible says to watch akjv matthew 24:44 says we know not the hour. It does sound though at the very least were all going to experience a devastating earthquake that will darken the sky before the rapture occurs slightly less than 7 years before the completion of the sixth day from my viewpoint.akjv Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. akjv Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready; for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.http://www.tulsachurchofgod.net/...ays/Holy_Day_Calendar.htm=======================================================Ezekiel Prophesied the 1967 Recapture of Jerusalem
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So tell that to the people who state that the sun was created on the 4th day. I was simply responding to Me4Him's point.Edited by bluescat48, : deleted part

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There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969

Just tell those people that the earths orbit started on day 4 its rotation started on day one. He cleared the atmosphere on day 4 and by causing the moon and the earth to orbit instead of just sitting on the circle of the sun to rule the day and moon instead of just sitting on the circle of the earth to orbit the earth to rule the night. God said he did this also so we could measure time for signs, for seasons, days, and years.Then quote Isaiah about the Lord sitting on the circle of the earth and how today this scientific principle is how you can have a satellight sit on the circle of the earth yet not orbit the earth.P.S. Think about it why your able to locate that satellight for GPS or satellight tv, cell phones is due to the satellight is not orbiting the earth but sitting on the circle of the earth.