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Author Topic:   Fulfillments of Bible Prophecy
Peepul
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Message 4 of 327 (506658)
04-28-2009 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Peg
04-28-2009 6:24 AM


Peg, are there any prophecies made either in old or new testament that you believe have come true in recent times (last 1800 years or so)?

In these cases, the fact that the prophecy occurred before the events in question would be completely unambiguous.


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Peepul
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Message 197 of 327 (507829)
05-08-2009 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 190 by jaywill
05-08-2009 8:48 AM


Re: The confidence trick of prophecy
There are some prophecies which may be better than others to argue for evidence of the faithfulness of the Bible. However, we will not allow unbelievers to insist that a fulfillment of prophecy is not "universal" because they continue in unbelief

This is unjustified - the prophecy is objectively not fulfilled!

Besides, reading this thread, it is clear that the prophecies being discussed are not explicit enough to say unambigously what is being predicted. The degree of interpretation involved is high, and to me, this means it is not even possible to say what the prophecy actually is.

If there are any truly explicit prophecies, with objective confirmation from evidence outside the bible, that are not self-fulfilling, please put them forward. Otherwise they really don't prove anything.


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Peepul
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Message 296 of 327 (508298)
05-12-2009 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 292 by jaywill
05-12-2009 6:15 AM


Re: Destruction of Jerusalem 70CE prophecy
Jaywill, thanks for your very thoughtful reply to my post.

I do understand the role of faith in interpreting the bible. I'm a scpetical person and that's why I'm looking for a prophecy of the kind I describe. If I'm honest, I'm not sure what would convince me of the truth of the Christian faith - would a large number of explicit, fulfilled prophecies do that? I'm not sure.

But I'm for sure not trying to disprove the bible. In a sense I'm starting from this point of view: I don't really believe it to be true - is there good evidence that it is? So I am looking for evidence of its truth rather than otherwise. In a way I would like it to be true.

Rich


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