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Author Topic:   Man in gods image... How ?
Phat
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Message 50 of 82 (438163)
12-03-2007 6:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Zucadragon
06-30-2006 6:00 PM


The jabberwockian mind of Phat
Zucadragon writes:
Now we humans, we have searched, found, processed and created using techniques well beyond what our own bodies can do. Techniques half the world don't even understand.. But they come from thoughts and experiments.. We can truly create something out of nearly nothing (I say nearly, we can do a lot with little if needed, but we cant create out of nothing)..
This is a great philosophical topic, and my observations are entirely based on my own speculations and interpretations of Biblical wording.
Personally, I believe that God created us in His own imagination. The image of man is Jesus Christ. Jesus was in the beginning (with God as Gods character) Whether Jesus was only human while on Earth or whether Jesus had a dual nature, fully human and fully Son (in total communion with His Father) is irrelevant. What is relevant is that Jesus was in the beginning. He was not a created thing. He was not some afterthought of a monotheistic God. He was in the beginning with God and through Him all things were created.
(Yes these are unsupported beliefs, but allow me to express them, critics.)
As soon as humanity became symbolically (or literally aware) that we had a choice whether to remain in communion with God or to become independent and freethinking, we chose freethinking and thus were granted our own imaginations. Vain though we were, we grew and evolved slowly after that point in time. The symbolism of the Garden of Eden story shows that the serpent (who had also preceded us as an independent entity from the Heavenly Hosts) told humans that they would be as gods if they rose up and claimed their freedom of choice.
Two points:
1) God foreknew that Lucifer would rebel and become Satan. It was no news to Him that this happened. God never created evil directly. God merely created the possibility of evil which Lucifer then chose.
2) Fallen Angels could never repent and return to communion with God. Humans could have this choice.
Thus, there are two images. Two imaginations. Two realities.
We have:
1) Gods imagination
2) Human imagination.
We have a choice in life of accepting our own responsibility and either being accountable to God (through belief and profession, if not religion) or accountable to no one. (except ourselves)
Humanity has created many things. One could argue that there is nothing new under the Son (since He initially created reality itself and the very definition of everything seen and unseen.)
Humans are thus never actual creators. We are re creators. We discover that which has already been created (or at least conceptualized) within the mind of GOD.
Disclaimer: This post is a compilation of the personal beliefs of its author. No implication of truth is contained therein, except for the Truth of Christ. Everyone is free to challenge the assumptions contained therein, with the acknowledgment that none of us really know anything. The assumption that we do is to assume that we are somehow creative...apart from God or perhaps because of Him.

"All that we call human history--money, poverty, ambition, war, prostitution, classes, empires, slavery--[is] the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy."--C.S.Lewis
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Homer Simpson: Sometimes, Marge, you just have to go with your gut!
Marge: You *always* go with your gut! How about for once you listen to your brain?

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