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Author Topic:   Death before the 'Fall'?
lfen
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Message 52 of 230 (275255)
01-03-2006 4:36 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by randman
01-03-2006 1:10 AM


Re: Death before the fall...
Human dentation and guts make us capable of being omnivorous but our molars and long guts point to the greater role of plant food in our diets.
You are saying that there were once herbivore lions. They had teeth capable of grinding plant food and long intestines to help digest the plant food?
All carnivores evolved tearing teeth and the shorter guts adapted to a diet of flesh and they did this in the few thousand years stipulated in your beliefs since the Fall was supposed to take place?
Or are you asserting God instanteously changed or created a select group of herbivores, changed their genes, and their jaws, teeth, guts, digestive enzymes etc?
There is no room for science or evidence in your beliefs. A universe with events like that which are not registered in any independent evidence but are only a story in a book is imaginary. Imagination is very powerful and sometimes preferrable to the world we know and discover. That your fantasy gives your life meaning is well and good but why are you attempting to falsify evidence to preserve fantasy world? Why not just go your way and say perhaps God created the universe the way he did to fool scientists into believing physics, chemistry, geology, biology operates by the principles observed, when really those principle were cooked up to hide that fact that the Bible is the only truth and that truth faith allows one to disregard reason and evidence and laugh at the poor fools who take the universe at face value. God's joke is on them. He changed the universe in such a way that science seems to work, but the real truth is the story told by all the ancients passed down in the middle east until this very day.
Wonderous! We don't need dentists when prayer creates miraculous fillings. We don't need medicine when prayer will heal. We don't need agriculture when faith will multiply fishes. We don't need airplanes we can fly on dragons and pegasuses. We don't need to mine gold when we can spin it from flax. And on and on. Imagination is a wonderful thing especially when it's used irresponsibly.
Is there any nonsense you are not willing to believe?
lfen

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lfen
Member (Idle past 4677 days)
Posts: 2189
From: Oregon
Joined: 06-24-2004


Message 60 of 230 (275337)
01-03-2006 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Admin
01-03-2006 10:55 AM


Re: Death before the fall...
The intention of the Bible Study forum are exegeses on meaning, interpretation and theology aside from and independent of any concerns about scientific considerations.
I wasn't clear on that. I withdraw my objection to the notion that it makes any sense to assert lions could be herbivorous.
lfen

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