Poor Satan, so misunderstood.

Hi Ringo,How's it going? Heh, that reminds me of that T-shirt: Thank God for Satan.On to my point:You've been saying that the Devil is a personification of the evils within us, but what do you make of the person that Jesus spoke with in Luke 4.Just another personification?What does that do to the typical, sin-free, portrayal of Jesus if he has the same "evil-inside" that we do?

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Letting the reigns go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith.
Science has failed our world.
Science has failed our Mother Earth.
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Well, your logic is a little choppy, but I get what you're saying. I wouldn't use the lack of a minute detail to discount the whole story, but that's me... Well, my argument for the mutual exclusiveness of human-ness and god-ness would be off-topic here, so we can just drop it... for now I'm not so sure that Jesus did not have the capacity for sin, just that he had the strength to overcome it, or whatever, but again, that has little to do with the misunderstandings of satan, so we'll have to touch on it another time.I was just wondering. Thanks for sharing.

What makes you think that he was completely human?

Maybe it was a real mountain but they were not seeing all of the world...But yeah, its a minute detail.It just doesn't seem like an important part of the story... where he was exactly and what exactly he was seeing...We don't have to take it literally. Then, it could just be a personification of the devil, but the story seems to say that Jesus was talking to an actual person. The location of their conversation doesn't really seem to matter. Not that I'm aware of. Like I said, God-ness and human-ness are mutaully exclusive, IMHO. He was the son of Jehovah.

If that is what personification is, then how can you talk about an actual person without personifying them?And with that logic, you could argue that Jesus was just a personification. My point was that if that was a personification of the devil, and Jesus has the same sin-ness in him that we do, then Jesus is "de-godified".But you said you think that he is considered to be completely human, and therefore not god (IMO), so there's not much more to discuss. We have a difference of opinion on the human-ness of Jesus.If he was completely human, then I have no problem with the devil character in Luke 4 simply being a personificiation.

You are assuming that the devil is not a person and then saying that anything that says that he is a person is just personification. Your reasoning is most circular. But if he was completely human then he was not God, however, he claimed to be God and did not claim to be fully human. I think that Jesus became man, but I wouldn't say that he was completely human. If he was, then he couldn't have been God.Well, I guess I could hand-wave it with the argument that an omnipotent god would have the power to do anything, including being both god AND fully human. It doesn't matter if you don't think that he was god... Got it. Because one detail was in inconsistent, the whole story is fake.