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Author Topic:   Poor Satan, so misunderstood.
Jaderis
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Message 25 of 301 (438765)
12-06-2007 6:34 AM
Reply to: Message 24 by jaywill
12-06-2007 5:53 AM


Yes Satan appeared in the form of a serpent in the garden. And he is out of place. Adam was to guard the garden. This suggests to me that Adam should have known that the serpent was out of place.
Especially when the serpent challenged them to disobey God it is obvious that the serpent is out of place. I think there should be universal agreement that Satan in the garden of evil was out of place and where he should not have been.
First...Adam was not presemt when the serpent "challenged." Only Eve. We also do not know if "Satan" should not have been there. This was God's Garden...this was His domain. God had just created the world and "The Fall" had not happened, yet. Adam and Eve were without sin. So Satan/Lucifer/The Devil corrupted God's creation right off the bat? The fall was not the fault of humans, but because of God's own fallen angel? And if God knew of it all, then the fault was not Eve's or of all humankind like we are told to believe, but of Satan and, therefore, God.
So if Satan has so much more power than Jehovah, that he can control thousands of generations, then what the hell is Jehovah doing? Is he just biding his time, hoping that he makes a larger impact?
Is Satan more powerful than God? Yeah, the temptations of the flesh are many, but you would think that an almighty God would have provisions that outstripped the fallen angel that He controlled, no?
Of course not, then all would come in to His grace and then the church would have no power. If God forgave all, then His earthly judges would have no jurisdiction.
If Satan has no power, then all would be God's...right? But if Satan has power, then, God does not have all power. And what kind of God is that?

"You are metaphysicians. You can prove anything by metaphysics; and having done so, every metaphysician can prove every other metaphysician wrong--to his own satisfaction. You are anarchists in the realm of thought. And you are mad cosmos-makers. Each of you dwells in a cosmos of his own making, created out of his own fancies and desires. You do not know the real world in which you live, and your thinking has no place in the real world except in so far as it is phenomena of mental aberration." -The Iron Heel by Jack London
"Hazards exist that are not marked" - some bar in Chelsea

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