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Author Topic:   Judges 19 - Sickest story in the bible
Funkaloyd
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Message 16 of 120 (245635)
09-22-2005 1:11 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Cold Foreign Object
09-21-2005 8:46 PM


What of the similar stories in which God causes, orders or clearly condones (some would say that's the case here) the "wretchedness"?

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Funkaloyd
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Message 30 of 120 (250592)
10-10-2005 9:55 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by renaissance guy
10-10-2005 5:50 PM


Re: God doesn't kill little children.
God sent the bears, so we must believe the offenders were worthy of such judgment.
So if the "little children" were nothing more than idolatrous jeerers, it would have been wrong for God to tear them apart?

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Funkaloyd
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Message 40 of 120 (251080)
10-12-2005 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by iano
10-12-2005 7:58 AM


Re: God doesn't kill little children.
If God cannot lie, then doesn't that suggest that there's a higher standard? If there isn't, then God should have the power to lie and yet remain without sin (by claiming that lying isn't sin when done by God).

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Funkaloyd
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Message 61 of 120 (251670)
10-14-2005 7:42 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by iano
10-14-2005 6:29 AM


God lies.

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Funkaloyd
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Message 64 of 120 (251706)
10-14-2005 10:03 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by iano
10-14-2005 7:57 AM


Re: God lies.
In addition to what Yaro said: recall that Arach, in starting this sub-topic, stated that "the bible also depicts god using others to lie for him".
Except that it's (just another) Biblical contradiction, I don't see why God lying poses a problem for you. It doesn't necessarily mean that "God can murder and all the rest"; that God lied simply means that God can lie. Perhaps, as with killing people, lying isn't bad when God does it?

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Funkaloyd
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Message 89 of 120 (253534)
10-20-2005 8:16 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by iano
10-20-2005 10:32 AM


Re: that's great that you disagree, but the issue is about whatRe: the word is "coven
iano writes:
The definition of dead biblically must come from the bible.
Where does the "full biblical meaning" come from; is death used metaphorically elsewhere (I really wouldn't know)?
Here are some of the next instances:
"And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died." - Gen 5:5
"And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die." - Genesis 6:17

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Funkaloyd
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Message 105 of 120 (255911)
10-31-2005 9:03 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by riVeRraT
10-31-2005 8:37 AM


The Bible on rape
riVeRraT writes:
I do not find stoning someone to death for rape a bad idea at all...
Let's look at it from another Biblical angle; Deuteronomy 22:28-29:
"If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."
I presume that you wouldn't want a daughter or little sister of yours to be forced to marry a pedophile. Can hardship, the lack of a police force etc. justify a law like this?

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