The Trinity

What the Trinity is is so closely related to what the Trinity does. And that is to put of God into man. The Trinity is to put something of God into man.Rather than being a static matter the Trinity is a dynamic action operation of the divine imparting from the Source -the Father, through the Course - the Son, imparting and transmitting as a Flow - The Holy Spirit into man.This is a movement of God with a destination being humanity. God dispenses Himself to man by means of His triune nature. The Trinity is not really a static matter to worship. But the real worship is the participation in this flowing of God's life and nature from the Father, through the Son, in the Holy Spirit right into man's being. God puts Himself into man by means of the Trinity.The Trinity is for the dynamic dispensing of God into man. What the Trinity is is inseperable from what the Trinity accomplishes. God the Father is the Source. God the Son is the Course. And God the Holy Spirit is the Flow, the Transmission of the of the divine life and nature from the Father and through the Son into the human spirit of man.The goal is that God may impart Himself into His people that they may be the corporate recepticle of the Triune God for thier enjoyment and His glorious expression in eternity.

The Trinity is also man's only hope for unity. The Trinity is the unique oneness. And to be one we have to be infused with the oneness of the Trinity.The oneness of the Trinity can swallow up divisions caused by denominations. Man needs the living Trinity to be saved not only from his religious denominations but even from differences in race, color, and nationality.For example if we are really swallowed up in the Trinity we will not be divided because of race. Do you think the Father and the Son cannot get along with one another because of them being different races? Of course not. So to be infused with the Father and the Son will cause the divisions among races to be overcome in God's divine life.What about color? People are deeply divided over the different colors of the skin. Do you think that the Holy Spirit dislikes the Son because He is of a different color? Of course He doesn't. Neither is the Son displeased with the Father because of the kinkiness of His hair or the size of His nose.So if all the believers in Christ are saturated with the Triune God the divisions and suspicions caused by race, colors, and nationalities will be swallowed up in the divine life.Even political differences can be overcome. Do you think that the Son and the Holy Spirit do not trust the Father because They are Liberal and the Father is too conservative? The thought is ridiculous. But when we are outside of the Trinity we are filled with all manner of divisions and suspicions. If we would let the Triune God infuse and fill us up we would be in the oneness that is God alone.The Trinity can also swallow up differences between husbands and wives. Being saturated with the Trinity is man's only hope for oneness. The Trinity is the indestructible oneness.Now where did Jesus say the same thing as I say here? Basically here is one place where He said it:"That they all may be one; even as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be in Us; that the world may believe that You have sent Me" (John 17:21)And here again:"And the glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, even as We are one;

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I in them, and You in Me, that they may be perfected into one, that the world many know that You have sent Me and have loved them even as You have loved Me." (John 17:23)You see this oneness is something into which the saved must be "perfected". It must be worked out. It is worked out by God dispensing the life of the Triune God into His saved people. They must be saturated and swallowed up in the divine Being of the Triune God.

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My name is Wes Highland. I read your question and would like to reply. If you really would like to know about the Trinity and where the idea originated from go to this website below. There's a lot of information on there - but - it's going to answer your question. In fact - it might just amaze you..(Spam removed. Please read Forum Guidelines ) AdminPhatEdited by AdminPhat, : spam

hi guys how are you all?I ask any christian believer to show me the most verses in the bible that explains trinity and I promise him to give hin a reply.enjoy

hi man I want to know what are the verses that explain or give the trinity doctrine

What do you mean exactly by "explains the trinity?" Do you mean that you have a reply for each verse which discribes the Father as God, the Son as God, and the Holy Spirit as God?Do you mean that you have a reply for any reference to a passage showing that each of these three are God?

Strictly speaking, to "undo" the trinity, it's only necessary to show that one of the three is not God. Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

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Sorry about not replying to your questions. I've been so busy trying to develop my own site that I neglected to explain my statement about the trinity. Most Bible forums will not allow me to post the address to my 'blog' - so the only way I can get this information out to you is to suggest that you go to Google and type in the name Wes Highland. That should lead you to my site - which talks extensively about 'three' ancient entities found all throughout the world and it's history. Hope to see you there.Wes Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

The AdminPD writes:"This thread is not about whether the Trinity is a viable doctrine or not or whether it is supported by scripture. If you don't believe in the doctrine of the Trinity, you should not be participating in this discussion."Most of the responses to this topic have violated this proscription, rather than let those who know and have expereinced the ONE God as represented in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit share what we know and have experienced.Most posts at this forum are treated in this manner. When genuine questions are raised by Christians who wants to know more fully what they believe from other Christians, non-believers feel it's their right and responsibility to de-bunk their beliefs, taking the topic down other rabbit trails, or throwing down red herrings.Why not let this topic be explained by "only" by those who believe in the Trinity as the AdminPD has directed? If any Christians have further questions regarding the Trinity, let them say so, and let Christians who believe they have something to add do so.Edited by John 10:10, : Added last sentence

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Matt 28:19 mentions Father, Son, & Holy Spirit.1 Cor 8:4-6 says some pretty direct things about it, though it pretty clearly disagrees with the standard modern explanation. Agrees completely with the Nicene Creed, though.Hebrews 1, most of the chapter, makes an attempt to directly argue for the divinity of Christ.Philippians 2:5-10 is considered by many to be an early creedal statement concerning Christ being more than a man.There's a lot more that gets used. Christ says some things about who he is in John 8, especially the part leading up to his pronouncement in Jn 8:58.Jn 1:1-14 addresses the issue as well.There's a lot of other verses people use, but those are some of the most significant. I supposed Jn 17:3 would have to be significant, too; being another statement that disagrees with the modern explanation but goes along with the Nicene Creed which represents the "accepted" viewpoint up to the early 4th century.

The Father and the Son are distinct but not separate. In my Strong's Exhaustive Concordance - Hebrew / Chaldee Dictionary the word for "Mighty" in Jeremiah 32:18 is entry #1368. The same word #1368 is used for "Mighty" in Isaiah 9:6. Likewise Hebrew word entry #410 is used for both "God" in Jeremiah 32:18 and in Isaiah 9:6. So whatever Jehovah is called in Jeremiah 32:18 the child born to us is called the same thing in Isaiah 9:6. "Mighty God" in Jeremiah 32:18 = "Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6.Now I do not read Hebrew. But these tools inform me of this fact. The child will be called what Jehovah God is.I believe that Paul's epistle to the Romans speaks of and inward experiencial aspect of Isaiah 9:6. It says that this child is born to us and this Son if given unto us. He is therefore for our enjoyment.Now if you will check the enjoyment and experience of God as divine life in Romans 8:9-11, you will see that the Apostle Paul used some titles in an interchangeable way. All terms are used for the One Who dwells in the believers, the One who is "unto us" in a subjective and experiencial way, if you will:"But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Yet if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not of Him. But if Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, the spirit is life because of righteousness. And if the Spirit of the One who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who indwells you" (Rom. 8:9-11).As a regenerated Christian I cannot detect any difference between "the Spirit of God" Who evidently is "the Spirit of Christ" Who evidently is also "Christ" Who is also "the Spirit of the One Who raised Christ Jesus from the dead."When the Three of the Triune God become truly "unto us" in an inward and subjective experience, neither we can nor Paul can detect any separation. There is distinction but there is not separation. First John says that God dwells in the believers. "Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him and he in God" (1 John 4:15).The terms "Trinity" or "Triune God", though not found in the Bible, are two useful expressions, (rightly understood of course) to put human words on this mysterious nature of God and our subjective experience of God.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.Edited by jaywill, : No reason given.

Remember, when Jesus was being baptized by John the Baptist, the Father's voice was heard to say; "this is my Son". Also present was the Holy Spirit. See Matthew 3:16-17The Father, The Son, and The Holly Spirit all together as One...as Jesus said many times... "I and my Father are one" John 10:30The plurality of God is is also demonstrated in Genesis 1:26 where Jehovah says; "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness."Genesis 11:7, "let US go down, and there confound their language."It's obvious God is not talking to angels hereJesus answered them, "I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?" The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God." (1John 5:8~12)And take a look of the old Testament :"..For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne ... from that time on and forever."Isaiah chapter 9-5Isaiah is talking about Mighty GodJesus fulfilled over 350 prophecies about Himself. Of these, over 105 it would be impossible for anyone else in history to fulfillYou can understand the Triunity of God as many examples in Nature....because...as you know...God made all...He is the creator :There is 3 states of water : solid , liquid, and gaseous ... but all of them still water, and the water natural state is liquid...The father is the natural state of God's nature...but it manifests in the son and the Holly Spirit....because they are one : the water/GodOur universe itself is a three in one trinity.1. Space. Infinite. Relates to the Father.
2. Mass. Visible. Relates to the Son.
3. Time. Animates the universe. Relates to the Holy Spirit.Time is a three in one entity.1. Future. Relates to the Father, the planner and the plan.
2. Present. The only visible manifestation of time. Relates to the Son.
3. Past. We should learn a lot from it. What would we know without it? Relates to our teacher, the Holy Spirit.The electricity power :1. Potential. (volts) Can't be seen or felt until there is a path for current flow, but the power is available. Relates to the Father.
2. Path or load. (ohms) The power becomes manifest, or visible, whether it is the movement of a needle or digits on a meter, or the electric appliances in our home. Relates to the Son.
3. Current. (amps) Electricity in action. Relates to the Holy Spirit.The light :Light is light, right? Yes, but it has three characteristics that relate directly to the Trinity.1. Actinic. The quality of light that is neither seen nor felt but makes the plants grow. Relates to the Father.
2. Luminiferious. The quality that can be seen and felt. Relates to the Son.
3. Calorific. The quality that cannot be seen, but can be felt. Relates to the Holy Spirit.Now we can start to see what God's Word means when it says we are created in the "image of God". Man is a triune being also:1. Soul. Neither seen nor felt, but contains our databank that makes us who we are. Relates to the Father.
2. Body. Our manifestation. You can see it and feel it. Relates to the Son.
3. Spirit. You can neither see nor feel our spirit, just like God's Spirit.=====It is the only way that the bible makes sense as one, i.e., the only way that all pieces are assembled together as ONE...the OLD testament and the NEW...as the revelation from God to mankindAlso it makes sense If we just understand God as :God is an awesome, infinite, loving Spirit and light. God is incapable of lying or sinning....He is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrowBecause of His infinite nature of Justice and perfection, He doesn't tolerate the sin...no human could reach God or see His face, but because He is also infinite in love.....He sent us his own child who has no sins and all the God justice came upon His shoulders....and because of His pain and dead...all mankind was absolved....He has paid all our sins...for usBecause that infinite justice, His infinite nature, a sin against a infinite God...requires a infinite repair...therefore...all mankind would be condemned to Hell.....therefore He gave His son...to pay and repair all mandkind sins....so all can be saved...Because Jesus is One with the Father....so He is infinite ... no sins...and His slaughter/sacrifice in the Cross was a infinite sacrifice to all Humanity and fulfilled ALL INFINITE justice of God - a perfect sacrifice from a perfect GodIn this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. In this is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the expiation for our sins. (1 Jn 4:9-10)But it is a mistery...so I end with this :Can a dog understand the nature of the human-being ?!Noeither the Human-being can understand the infinite nature of GodEdited by Delta, : No reason given.