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iano
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Message 54 of 106 (455188)
02-11-2008 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Taz
02-10-2008 10:07 AM


Taz writes:
If in 3 days time I don't see any christian reacting or responding to johnfolton's sexist view, I'm going to take your silence as agreeing his view.
That's not a view. That's a garbled mess.
I hope you don't make a habit of forming views in such a "throw-your-toys-out-of-the-crib-unless.." fashion
Edited by iano, : No reason given.

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iano
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Posts: 6165
From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
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Message 71 of 106 (455359)
02-12-2008 3:05 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by Taz
02-12-2008 12:17 AM


Taz writes:
OMG, are you guys trying to be ironic? Johnfolton made the most sexist comments I haven't seen for a long time and there was absolutely no reaction from you guys
My comment was that johnfoltons post was a garbled mess. The reason why you might not find Christians commenting on garbled messes might be other than that "we" don't want to take a "bro" to task.
Of the bit that might be taken to be sexist? I could only extract this. Most of the rest of the post seemed to meander around interpreting Revelation in the light of a point not really made.
johnfolton writes:
I see it more that its shameful for the woman to wear the pants kind of the problem with Hiliary Clinton.
Is John commenting using an interpretation of the divine order which places man at the head of a woman in marriage? And seeing it as shameful that a woman goes against this order? If so, this is not sexist but merely reflecting the divine order for an aspect of the relationship between a man and his wife (or a wife and her husband if you prefer). That's not sexist.
Perhaps he means something else that is indeed sexist. Hard to tell and I wasn't planning on trying to tease it all out
Likely there are some cocky liberal women that will read this so just remember this link is from a woman not a man but a woman talking to women.
Doubtlessly there will be some cocky liberal women who will read this. Just like there will be some cocky liberal men. And cocky conservative men and women.
So?
I didn't read the link. The post didn't warrant it.
But after I pointed out your silence implicating you agree with him, you guys piled onto me instead of him.
I called his post a garbled mess and it is. And criticised your approach. You've been around long enough to know fallacious argumentation when you see it. Guilty (of something) until proven innocent is about as weak as it comes.
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iano
Member (Idle past 1967 days)
Posts: 6165
From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
Joined: 07-27-2005


Message 73 of 106 (455378)
02-12-2008 9:00 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by Trixie
02-12-2008 7:23 AM


Re: Garbled mess, yes, but.....
johnfolton writes:
Just curious what was the reason Christ chosed men to be apostles? In Christ there is no male or female yet he chose men to be apostles. When I ever look at cars its always the man driving is this like something to do with men don't need to ask for directions.
trixie writes:
blatant sexist rubbish!
I see plenty of women driving cars so that much is inaccurate. I note myself that (as a grouping) womens strengths and weaknesses in driving cars tend to lie in different areas than (as a grouping) mens strengths and weaknesses. John is not so much sexist as he is being imbalanced and offensive.
It may well be the reason woman are supposed to keep quiet in church and ask their mate questions after. I asked a woman if she would vote for Hiliary and she said "no" that they women are not stable mentally, hmmmm...... I always thought women stable but she said hormones mood swings, etc... I said Oh.......
Sexist garbage
Apparently John has never heard of Maggie Thatcher.
If someone is misrepresenting the message of Christ, or putting forward distasteful interpretations of it, then fellow Christians should make an effort to distance Christ from this.
I'd give folk around here a little more credit for spotting rubbish than you seem to. A wolf in sheeps clothing would concern me - not someone, Christian or no, spouting blatant nonsense.
Lifes too short to deal with nonsense posts Trixie. Take a leaf from the book of those who don't read and reply to them.

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iano
Member (Idle past 1967 days)
Posts: 6165
From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
Joined: 07-27-2005


Message 75 of 106 (455383)
02-12-2008 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Trixie
02-12-2008 9:07 AM


Re: Garbled mess, yes, but.....
Sure. The term wolf in sheeps clothing implies a certain subtleness and deviousness on the part of the wolf. The techniques of such a one rely on slipping the lie in alongside a message containing as much of God's truth as possible.
jf's manner is simply nonsensical. There is no subtley nor deviousness behind it.

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iano
Member (Idle past 1967 days)
Posts: 6165
From: Co. Wicklow, Ireland.
Joined: 07-27-2005


Message 77 of 106 (455385)
02-12-2008 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by Trixie
02-12-2008 9:33 AM


Re: Garbled mess, yes, but.....
As I've already pointed out, I'd rely on the natural defences of non-Christian EvC-er to deal with jf's representations of Christianity without my having to do so much as lift a finger.
If it smells rotten then it will be discarded surely?

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