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Author Topic:   Not reading God's Word right is just wrong. No talking snakes!
ReverendDG
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Message 17 of 157 (486711)
10-23-2008 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Greatest I am
10-22-2008 8:43 AM


At the time of the writings of scripture, those who directed scribes were also poets and song writers.
The idea of using a talking snake is a message to readers that what follows must be taken with a grain of salt because it is based on an impossible beginning.
really? on what grounds do you make this assumption?
when you have people who believe that drizzling birds blood on a person suffering from leprosy will cure them. what logic are you using to think they wouldn't believe other nonsense?
That is also why they emphasize WORD, that the reader is to look for the true meaning of the words given.
where does it say the bible is gods word? jesus is called the word, but thats just a translation of logos.
It should be read an archetypal rendition of a best guess for man”s beginnings, in terms of morals sense. A term that requires knowledge of good and evil. A sense we all cherish in ourselves and would not give up.
enforcing a modern belief on bronze-age men is a bad idea!
the only reason to do what you suggest is because accepting what the bible says 100% makes you look insane.
is there something wrong with people believing what it said thousands of years ago are just wrong now?
In conclusion, to read scripture literally without knowing the true context and idioms of the original words and language forces one to truly believe in the impossible and unnatural. The Bible begins with a talking serpent and ends with ten headed monster. A clear indication from the compilers of scripture to not take the Bible literally.
this is your conclusion? i'd say you need to read scripture with the thought in your mind that these are people with no knowledge of how the world works, not what you claim.
people thousands of years ago believed in all kinds of crazy things, you can't just say "well they didn't really mean what they did!"

"no intelligent agent who is strictly physical could have presided over the origin of the universe or the origin of life." - William Dembski

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ReverendDG
Member (Idle past 4137 days)
Posts: 1119
From: Topeka,kansas
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Message 28 of 157 (488754)
11-16-2008 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Greatest I am
10-23-2008 10:10 PM


The introduction of any fantasy item to a narrative, changes it from whatever it was meant to be, to a fantasy.
to you maybe, but people thousands of years ago didn't separate "fantasy" from reality that way
The most serious speaker will lose respect if he, on occasion, confers with a talking pet.
prove this, this sounds too modernistic to be true
If they wanted serious respect then they would have left the snake crawl quietly.
serious respect from who? you? i hardly find you an expert on people from 3000 years ago.
the fact is people believed in all kinds of crazy things, trying to twist it to fit with your beliefs is just wrong
Unfortunately, many read the Bible as the WORD of God. They are misguided.
yes and so what?
is it any better than trying to revision the text so people don't seem so foolish?

"no intelligent agent who is strictly physical could have presided over the origin of the universe or the origin of life." - William Dembski

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