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Author Topic:   Not reading God's Word right is just wrong. No talking snakes!
Agobot
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Message 5 of 157 (486553)
10-22-2008 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Greatest I am
10-22-2008 8:43 AM


At the time of the writings of scripture, those who directed scribes were also poets and song writers.
The idea of using a talking snake is a message to readers that what follows must be taken with a grain of salt because it is based on an impossible beginning.
That is also why they emphasize WORD, that the reader is to look for the true meaning of the words given.
It should be read an archetypal rendition of a best guess for man”s beginnings, in terms of morals sense. A term that requires knowledge of good and evil. A sense we all cherish in ourselves and would not give up.
In conclusion, to read scripture literally without knowing the true context and idioms of the original words and language forces one to truly believe in the impossible and unnatural. The Bible begins with a talking serpent and ends with ten headed monster. A clear indication from the compilers of scripture to not take the Bible literally.
Debate--Should the Bibles be read literally.
Regards
So you're saying that god is the singularity, the talking snake is the energy density, the cross is the Big Bang, Adam is the dark energy and Jesus's lifespan represents 1 Planck time unit. What a wonderful construct - the bible must have been right all along...
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"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind"
"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever - This is a somewhat new kind of religion"
-Albert Einstein

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Agobot
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Message 9 of 157 (486606)
10-23-2008 4:33 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Greatest I am
10-22-2008 8:43 AM


Greatest I am writes:
Debate--Should the Bibles be read literally.
The bible is plain wrong, in fact it's the bible that created the myth that there is no creator or that it's not necessary. There are scientists who still follow the path of "logic" that if the bible is wrong then there is no creator and everything is evolution. IMO the creator is not even hiding, it doesn't even want to remain anonymous, we're just headed in the wrong direction - looking for him in thousand year old scripture full of utter nonsense.
But rest assured, there are still scientists who aren't so minded, to quote Michio Kaku on the Large Hadron Collider experiment:
“Reading the mind of God, that’s what this machine is for. We’re essentially recreating on a tiny scale the first chapter of Genesis.”
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"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - A.Einstein
"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever - This is a somewhat new kind of religion" - Albert Einstein
""Matter is nothing but the harmonies created by this vibrating string..The laws of physics can be compared to the laws of harmony allowed on the string. The universe itself, composed of countless vibrating strings, would then be comparable to the a symphony."

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Agobot
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Message 12 of 157 (486633)
10-23-2008 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Greatest I am
10-23-2008 8:44 AM


Greatest I am writes:
The God you follow is in science?
He hides in nature?
It's not, but through science in the future, I believe we'll become something similiar to what we think God is. Maybe one day we'll even be able to transcend our physical existence(maybe through another not so condensed arrangement of energy) and become oneness with him. That's my belief.

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - A.Einstein
"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever - This is a somewhat new kind of religion" - Albert Einstein
"Matter is nothing but the harmonies created by this vibrating string..The laws of physics can be compared to the laws of harmony allowed on the string. The universe itself, composed of countless vibrating strings, would then be comparable to a symphony." - Michio Kaku

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Agobot
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Message 14 of 157 (486635)
10-23-2008 9:37 AM
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10-23-2008 9:26 AM


Greatest I am writes:
Godliness is a moral position. God is a philosophy.
Science is not good at philosophy.
How will science help find God? It deals with the physical, not the non corporeal.
I wasn't talking about tomorrow afternoon, our scientific knowledge is still very limited. I was talking about millins of years from now(provided we survive as species). On what basis do you suppose science in the year 100 000th, will not deal with the incorporeal(we've been around for 200 000 years)? Life on Earth is roughly 700 000 000 years old(the animal world), what makes you think after 100 000 years science/physics will deal only with falling bodies, inertia, acceleration and mass?
We are just beginning to open our eyes, so it's helpful to keep dogmas out.
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"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - A.Einstein
"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever - This is a somewhat new kind of religion" - Albert Einstein
"Matter is nothing but the harmonies created by this vibrating string..The laws of physics can be compared to the laws of harmony allowed on the string. The universe itself, composed of countless vibrating strings, would then be comparable to a symphony." - Michio Kaku

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