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Coyote
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Message 37 of 157 (488872)
11-18-2008 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by jaywill
11-17-2008 7:49 PM


The "flood" again
There was a flood.
There was a flood in the same way there are Jedi Knights.
Or hobbits and orcs.
There is more evidence for Santa Claus than for the purported global flood (what about all those presents, eh?).
Arguing about the purpose of the flood is akin to literary criticism or comparative folklore; it certainly is not history.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Coyote
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Message 39 of 157 (488874)
11-18-2008 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 38 by jaywill
11-18-2008 10:32 PM


Re: The "flood" again
Sure there was a flood. Cultures all over the world have a tradition about such a flood. The collective cultural memory of many civilizations have a tradition about a devastating flood. I think it has some basis in history - in the flood in Noah's time.
No global flood. That is a tribal myth.
The most likely basis for the myth was the flooding of the Black Sea area somewhat over 7,000 years ago. From there the tale obviously grew in the telling.
That cultures around the world have local flood myths proves nothing; most civilizations are founded on large bodies of water. And floods happen. Look at New Orleans!
On the other hand, we have no worldwide archaeological or sedimentological evidence for a flood about 4,350 years ago (the consensus of biblical scholars for the date of the flood).
We have no evidence in natural history of such a flood either.
Human cultures and genetics also argue against such a depopulation/repopulation. Just in the area I work (western US) there are a number of archaeological sites with mtDNA evidence from before to after the date of the purported flood--and no change in mtDNA or the human cultures across that time period. Rather, there is continuity of just about everything--fauna and flora, human cultures, mtDNA, etc.
Face it, the evidence against a global flood is overwhelming. It is a tribal myth, not a real event for which there is documented evidence.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Coyote
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Message 41 of 157 (488881)
11-18-2008 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by jaywill
11-18-2008 11:24 PM


Re: The "flood" again
My basic attitude is that science is man's invention. And the Bible is God's revelation. First I have to understand what is actually being said by God's revelation. That takes some work. For often people just have traditional assumptions which do not match what the Bible actually says.
Now if there is a descrepency between what science says and what the Bible says, I feel the error must be on the part of man's invention. That is because God knows all the facts.
quote:
Belief gets in the way of learning.
Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love, 1973

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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