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Author Topic:   Is Evolution Reversible
Hyroglyphx
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Message 35 of 49 (511123)
06-06-2009 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by doc
05-17-2009 7:08 PM


Answer is in the question
The local variation in a population is reversible (micro-evolution) but is macro-evolution reversible? Obviously not exactly but if conditions changed then would evolution back-track?
Evolution doesn't have a direction so surely it is possible for it to go backwards?
Didn't you just answer your question? If evolution doesn't have a direction, then going backwards is a contradiction in terms, as "backwards" is indicative of being directional.
If evolution simply means, "change," then there is no forward or backwards, just different.
If you are asking if humans can somehow devolve back in to single-celled organelles, I would think not.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 40 of 49 (511168)
06-07-2009 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by Percy
06-07-2009 5:56 AM


Re: Answer is in the question
The question can also be addressed at the genetic level. The simplest mutation of a single nucleotide substitution can certainly be easily reversed in the next generation. Other types of mutations would have their own particular probability of reversal. A chromosome duplication could easily be reversed a generation later, but a chromosome loss would be almost impossible to reverse (except in cases where it was a duplicate of another chromosome).
I was under the impression that he was hinting of going back very far on the lineage. I'm wondering just how far "backwards" he was referring to. But I tend to agree with you that selective pressures + isolation + mutation does all sorts of weird things. I would think that whatever adaptations evolved could just as easily go back via deletion/insertion.
But Dr. Adequate is right in that a significant nucleotide change would kill an organism before it gave it a chance to populate further. Somewhere in the order of three base changes, maybe? I don't know. I think in practical terms it would be unremarkable, such as the Galapagos finches you spoke of.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 42 of 49 (511172)
06-07-2009 8:17 AM
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06-07-2009 8:08 AM


Re: Answer is in the question
Not likely: given the mutation rate, you yourself have many more single nucleotide substitutions than that, in the order of about 100.
I stand corrected.

"An idealist believes the short run doesn't count. A cynic believes the long run doesn't matter. A realist believes that what is done or left undone in the short run determines the long run." --Sydney J. Harris--

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