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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: How does this enable an embryo to violate the second law of thermodynamics? The second law of thermodynamics is, for macroscopic systems like cells and organisms, an absolute law. We know of no exception to this. So, my question to you is: when the embryo grows from a single cell to a grown adult, how does it avoid violating the second law? Now I will tell you that it does not violate the second law. What is the second law (your proposed statement of it is incorrect, as Crashfrog has already pointed out)? How can it be correctly applied to a growing embryo? Why can't the correct application to the growing embryo be applied to an evolving population of organisms? Once you admit that you do not know what the second law of thermodynamics is or how to correctly apply it to biology, there are links that I and others can supply to you that will help you understand it better.
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Jagz Beach Inactive Member |
"How does this enable an embryo to violate the second law of thermodynamics?" It is programmed to divide and yadda yadda..."THE embryo CELL IS AS COMPLICATED AS NEW YOUR CITY." The so-called "simple cells" are not programmed to divide and yadda yadda...?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "In case you are not sure, the sun is a star, stars were created on day four, the two lights in the sky, the sun and the moon were created on day four, you need to rethink your theory in my opinion as scripture explicity contradicts you." That is your interpretation... But if any of you guys ever studied revelation you would know that "and" does not mean "and then". I interpret the fourth day as a clearing in the skies so one could actually see where the light was coming from weather it be the moon or the sun and even the Stars which God made. That is the logical conclusion to the matter. So it appears that the first day light shown through, but it wasn't till the fourth day that we conclude where the light is actually coming from. For we know that day and night already existed on the first day~!! Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also. Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that [it was] good. Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. [This message has been edited by Jagz Beach, 01-11-2004]
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5935 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
Jagz
To whom are you replying in post #47?
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Jagz Beach Inactive Member |
Chiroptera and you...
BTW how do I get the quote boxes to appear? [This message has been edited by Jagz Beach, 01-11-2004]
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
If this is supposed to be a reply to me, then you haven't answered my questions, merely repeated your original statement. Read my questions again.
Also, your posts have a tendency to be...incoherent. Please try to write in complete sentences, and try to remember your high school lessons where they tried to teach you how to write a proper paragraph. You are simply not expressing your thoughts very well, and, to be frank, you are coming across as very confused.
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5935 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
Jagz
Thanks for clarifying that.Now I understand what you are saying about the position of the biblical text and its presentation of the creation story.My point,however, has to do with equating it with the scientific version of creation through the big bang. As I showed you in previous posts the biblical creation story is not compatible with the big bang.That is all. "I am not young enough to know everything. " Oscar Wilde
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Jagz Beach Inactive Member |
I was only in high school for 3 months, so I must have missed the lesson you a referring too. Like I said I am not the smartest tool in the shed. So you guys have to use your intelligence to decipher what I am saying. I don’t have to complete my sentences and you can’t make me I am not that complicated, nor that illegible for that matter so deal with it.
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2329 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
BTW how do I get the quote boxes to appear? Hit the edit button at the bottom of this post, it will show you how I did the various quotes.
quote: or this one The Queen writes: or even this one Anytime you have a question as to how someone did something, just hit the edit button on that message to see what they did. You won't be able to actually edit someone else's post, but you can see how they make their post look the way it does. Also, on the left part of the reply window, are links named *HTML is ON and *UBB Code is ON, these links will help you figure out some of the codes used here on the forum AdminAsgara Queen of the Universe< !--UE--> [This message has been edited by AdminAsgara, 01-11-2004]
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1494 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I was only in high school for 3 months, so I must have missed the lesson you a referring too. Like I said I am not the smartest tool in the shed. No offense, but isn't it just possible that the theory that only revolutionized the entire field of biology is maybe a little beyond your ability to comprehend or rebut? It never fails to amuse me how creationists can say stuff like "I failed high school but somehow I know better than thousands of well-trained Ph.D biologists" with a straight face.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
quote: Sorry, but you are that illegible. I am being honest when I say that I don't quite understand what you are trying to say at times, and I am honest when I say that I don't see how you have answered my questions.
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Jagz Beach Inactive Member |
sidelined, how do make your quote boxes?
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2329 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
look up a few posts
AdminAsgara Queen of the Universe
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5935 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
At the beginning of the quote type [qs]
At the end of the quote add a / before the q
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Jagz Beach Inactive Member |
"No offense, but isn't it just possible that the theory that only revolutionized the entire field of biology is maybe a little beyond your ability to comprehend or rebut?" The study of what makes us tick is what made biology what it is today. Giving evolution credit for science is absurd. It was the earlier elementary science that made evolution what it is today, and it is modern day science that is debunking evolution. Natural selection has limits to how far it can go to allow its host to adapt, and the changes in the natural selection process do not allow a simple cell to evolve to a man through a natural process, ever hear of entropy? Trying to give credit to evolution for science is an absurdity. [This message has been edited by Jagz Beach, 01-11-2004]
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5935 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
Jagz
Now we are onto something.You state.
modern day science that is debunking evolution Which modern day science are you refering to because I can assure you that they are fumbling the ball.But do not take my word for it. Allow myself and others here to present the errors and show how it is actually easy for you to understand it also. SCience is not hard but it requires you to look at a tough problem from a fresh point of view.Please let us help you to understand. "I am not young enough to know everything. " Oscar Wilde
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