Are we living on the planet of the apes?

Please help me as you can see I need a lot of help~!!How do we go from here..."All processes (left to themselves) go toward a greater state of disorder, disorganization, disarrangement and less complexity.".To a "simple cell" transforming through a natural process into a man when it is not programmed to do so?[This message has been edited by Jagz Beach, 01-11-2004]

You mean the modern science that's discovering unprecidented new trasnitional fossils? The modern science that's uncovering the genetic evidence that links all species? The modern science that allows us to use evolutionary processes to design circuit boards and jet airplanes?That modern science? Oh, I see, you meant a 2000-year-old book. That doesn't sound modern to me. You mean, a decrease in energy available to do work? What does that have to do with evolution? Yeah, I've heard of entropy. Obviously you don't really know what it is. No. What's absurd is trying to hold a 2000-year-old fairy tale over the most influential theory in biology. Your ignorance of the history of science is noted. You still haven't explained how the fact that you have less training, less education, less experience, and most importantly less data than biologists allows you to tell them what's what.

JagzOk let us start with this. I am going to give you access to web pages one at a time in order to slowly acquaint you with how the concepts behind your question work.
First off we must understand the concept of energy.Check out this website,just right click your mouse while holding the cursor over it.http://www.explorepdx.com/abstract01.htmlI will get back to you over the next little while and we will gradually introduce you to the other parts of the puzzle. For the moment however my child needs me time and She is quite persuasive.

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"I am not young enough to know everything. "
Oscar Wilde

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All processes (left to themselves) go toward a greater state of disorder, disorganization, disarrangement and less complexity.

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"Knowledge is Power" - Francis Bacon

DNA code to me is basically software program that ties virtually everything together in the Matrix of this God forsaken planet, heredity factors in this software program is what separates us from apes dogs cats yadda yadda. Don't send me to any stinking links. Give it to me in a sentence a paragragh or whatever. Do you guys want to help, or make me feel dumber than I was before I got here? I already know I am an idiot... you don't have to remind me. Enough, with all the ridiculous syllables, just answer the god damn question at the top of the page.

Excellent first post!!! Nice style

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Common sense isn't

JagzWhoa up my friend.It is not possible to explain the whole of everything that you need in order to understand how nature does what she does.By your own admission I do sincerely want to help. But this is not a matter of faith. You are required to invest some effort into thinking about these principles that underlie the processes you are so keen to know about.
Without going over the physics behind these things you cannot know if what I am telling you holds water or not.I will leave it up to you.

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"I am not young enough to know everything. "
Oscar Wilde

I apologize if my last post seem unreasonably harsh. It's hard to tell sometimes when someone is having some difficulty in understanding or whether they are intentionally being difficult.To reply to your earlier post: the second law of thermodynamics makes no mention of complexity or order. Here is the second law of thermodynamics as taught in an upper level college physics course:It is not possible to create a process whose sole result is the extraction of heat energy from a single reservoir and converting it into work.See, no mention of order or complexity. The statement that you have made is a simplified version of the second law that is not entirely accurate.By the way, for those interested, here is gallo's Thermodynamics Test. In it are two other statements of the second law that are exactly equivalent to the one that I just gave. Can you find them?

Dear Jagz,I think the fundamental problem with the quote is the bit about "left to themselves". None of the proceses of life or living organisms on this planet are left to themselves, they all interact with their environment.In thermodynamic terms there are no living systems on Earth which are closed system they all have energy input from outside mostly from the sun, directly or indirectly.TTFN,WK

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Your discussion of the appearance of VCR's misses one important point. VCR's don't f**k! When you figure out why that is important get back to us.

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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!Beautiful in it's simplicity and brevity, Ned, truly a thing of beauty.

I don't know, my VCR seems to be f**ked whenever there's something I really want to record on.

Yeah, well nobody saw it get f**ked, so nobody really can say if it happened or not!

Mine got jammed, so it didn't record the event.

So it wasn't that difficult for you to evolve then... DT

Hey Jagz, I like your avatar (a jaguar, Panthera onca, presumably). Could you perhaps tell me what 'kind' it is, please? I assume you believe that 'kinds' are immutable -- that a human couldn't be derived by descent from an ape, an amphibian from a fish, a bird from a dinosaur, and so on. Perhaps you could tell us what a 'kind' actually is?Cheers, DT