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Author Topic:   Morality! Thorn in Darwin's side or not?
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Message 375 of 438 (743580)
12-02-2014 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 374 by Taq
12-01-2014 3:42 PM


Knowledge if founded in facts and beliefs are founded in the mind.
The only time beliefs can be considered knowledge is when they are are in accordance to the truth.
At least this is my take on it.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 377 of 438 (743586)
12-02-2014 3:03 PM
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12-02-2014 2:59 PM


Then what good is belief? Perhaps that it allows one to formulate ideas and evaluate things mentally without the having the facts.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 387 of 438 (743681)
12-03-2014 10:12 AM
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12-02-2014 8:11 PM


Edge writes:
Belief allows one to have certainty without evidence. The less evidence one has, the more adamant must be the belief because without a degree of certainty, we become enervate, helpless frightened.
Hi edge, I think this is a true to a great degree for many people.
But this also depends on the person. I know plenty of skeptics and empiricist who hold their beliefs to a high degree of scrutiny.
Beliefs may allow certainty without evidence, but it does not demand it. That's the job of religious dogma imo.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 390 of 438 (743723)
12-03-2014 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 381 by Dogmafood
12-02-2014 8:40 PM


we wuz lucky.
Hi ProtoTypical, great discussion.
Prototypical writes:
The ability of individual humans to adapt to changing environments = 7 billion humans. This shows that our qualities are more fit than, say, the carrier pigeon's were. It is not the level of melatonin in our skin that has led to so many humans.
I think it is also a toss of the dice. The particular niche Homo sapiens sapiens now inhabit favors our existence.
This is nothing more than pure luck of the draw. A complete marine environment would of pretty much left us as meat puppets for White sharks and cephalopods as the big non terrestrial environment winners in the intelligence dept.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 435 of 438 (757384)
05-08-2015 10:15 AM
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05-08-2015 9:32 AM


Re: Read the Bible
And to muddy the waters even further the interpretation and application of what was read; example......all of them folks who take up serpents.
If you get bit it cuz you doing it wrong!

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 437 of 438 (757403)
05-08-2015 12:05 PM
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05-08-2015 11:46 AM


Re: Read the Bible
Ah yes we now see through the true motive of this passage. Unfortunately for us the "stupid gene" was perpetuated due to early sexual maturity and reproduction of the subjects following yet another passage of "be fruitful and multiply."

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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