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Author Topic:   Morality! Thorn in Darwin's side or not?
Taz
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Message 12 of 438 (504485)
03-29-2009 5:30 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by kuresu
03-29-2009 2:16 PM


kuresu writes:
I know you didn't feel like researching the numbers, but you really should have.
Actually, oni got a point there. While the number of people dying in wars have increased quite a bit, but so have the total populations. If we go back to the bronze age, a war often resulted in the extinction of entire civilizations. The same can't be said about it today. The difference of the number of people dying in wars versus the number of people in existence have been increasing steadily throughout history.

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Taz
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Message 35 of 438 (504565)
03-31-2009 3:43 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by kuresu
03-30-2009 8:02 PM


kuresu writes:
I disagreed with his premise that we are becoming less aggressive
I don't think this is what he was trying to convey. Let me break it down and see if I got it right.
According to Oni...
(1) The natural tendency for a sociaty is to trie to progress
(2) Progres leeds two better living conditions
(3) Better living conditions lead to better social value for human lyfe
(4) Better social value for human life leads to less quarrels
(5) Less corals lead to less agresion
I don't think he's saying people over all are getting less aggressive. I think he's saying natural selection favors societies that are more prosperous because of the reasons I outlined above.

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Taz
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Message 48 of 438 (504624)
03-31-2009 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by anglagard
03-31-2009 4:32 AM


Re: I Call BS, Plain and Simple
anglagard writes:
You sure make it difficult to agree with when you intentionally misspell. But I realize from your previous posts, there is some difficulty in conveying when to be taken lightly and when to be taken seriously.
Why are you prejudice aganst peeple who cant spel?
All I was trying to say was Oni's got a point when he was saying that people in societies that are more prosperous tend to be less aggressive toward each other. Why? Because these people have a lot to lose. On the other hand, people who are in unstable societies don't put that much value on human life. There's nothing to lose!

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Taz
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Message 49 of 438 (504625)
03-31-2009 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by onifre
03-31-2009 5:02 PM


Re: I Call BS, Plain and Simple
onifre writes:
Example: If you see someone getting stoned in the middle of the street today, no matter what they did, even if they just killed someone, would you not intervene and tell the stoner - (no pun intended) - to call the proper authorities to handle the situation in a less aggressive but still just, manner?
I would wager that most of us would intervene - (given of course that we do not put ourselves in danger in the process).
Actually, have you ever heard of the bystander effect?

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