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Author Topic:   Morality! Thorn in Darwin's side or not?
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Message 45 of 438 (504607)
03-31-2009 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Cedre
03-31-2009 10:10 AM

Cedre Concedes
Genuine morality is a choice because it is a choice we have moral people and immoral/amoral people existing at the same time, proving that our altruism isn't instinct based like is the case with the rabbits in your example.
Evolution can only dictate our instincts - whether they come as automatic behaviour or tendencies.
By making the statement quoted above you have removed even the possibility of morality as such posing a problem for Darwin.

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Message 96 of 438 (504837)
04-03-2009 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by Cedre
04-03-2009 11:55 AM

Re: looking forward.
The problem is that you don't seem to have a clear PROBLEM in mind.
By your definition of morality only conscious choices - which cannot be dictated by evolution - count. So it can't be the choices themselves.
So the only way in which evolution can affect morality is if it gave us instincts that favoured behaving morally or imnorally. However, since you grant that animals can instinctively act in ways which would be good if they were consciously chosen it follows that evolution could provide us with instincts that lead us to favour a moral course of action over an immoral one. So it can't be that either.
So what, exactly, is the problem ?

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