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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Jar writes:
When mountain gorillas see hunters coming they start breeding like crazy - hoping to 'win' Hippopotamus skin. They can't adapt because WE changed the environment and change it faster than they can adapt. "Faster everyone! We just need a few more hundred thousand generations before we become bullet-proof! *crosses fingers*""The hunters are nearly here!" "What do you mean: you aren't even pregnant yet?!"
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
AlphaOmegakid writes: Granny Magda writes:
It's not? Oh let me inform you....It most definitely is! Genetic entropy is not on the list. Then why did you post quotes related to captive breeding and in-breeding?And why do none of the documents even mention the word entropy? {abe}I think you are trying to show us your fantastic new discovery. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
jar writes:
But Aok says it was a global flood not lots of floods!!
It was lots of floods over a very extended period. AOK writes:
So it must have happened!! Now you do realize that evos have a global flood also, don't you? Unless Aok is lying, of course.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
jar writes:
His blatant equivocation in his later posts leads me to think he is not debating honestly. I don't think he is lying, or that such a charge is warranted at all.I think he knows when he gets things wrong and lies to cover up his mistakes. I could be wrong, but that is what my instincts are telling me.*shrug*
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Kaichos Man writes:
Obviously, since you failed to describe even one falsification to evolution. Dear me, this is harder than I thought. TBH: it wasn't even a good attempt. {abe} Re-Reading your post, I don't think you even know what a falsification is. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Kaichos Man writes:
There is no such thing as 'cold-blooded' and 'warm blooded' - they are obsolete terms that are only used in a colloquial sense. Cold-blooded to warm-blooded? Even though a warm-blooded creature requires 10 times as much food as a cold-blooded creature? And in turn the creature needs to be warm-blooded in order to gather 10 times as much food? So in order to become warm-blooded you have to already be warm blooded?How much an animal's body temperature is affected by the outside temperature is different between species. This difference ranges from one end of the spectrum to the other with many shades of 'warm-bloodedness' inbetween. You argument can only have any weight if animals were only 'completely warm blooded' or 'completely cold blooded'.But as species evolve, they can slowly increase/decrease their thermoregulation, without detrimentally effecting their diet or behaviour.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Kaichos Man writes: Please provide a reference for this. Here are 4 links for you:
Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Link 4
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
jar writes:
No offense meant, but that is off-topic and just a rabbit hole for KM to lure you into. Why do you continue to post things you know are false and have been refuted over and over again? The Theory of Evolution has no connection to either Atheism or Faith and you have been shown conclusive evidence that falsifies that assertion. There are more than enough on-topic errors to address first. Edited by Panda, : tyops
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
ICANT writes:
Does it take intelligence to address the topic? Does it take intelligence to understand what is preached about the ToE here at EvC? I take it from your off-topic comments that you think that there are falsifications of the theory of evolution.But then I am left wondering why you didn't post any.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Kaichos Man writes:
So, from your silence I take it that you accept that you were completely wrong in regards to warm/cold blooded animals? We're waiting! Care to aknowledge your mistake? We're waiting!
"For myself, also, I rejoice profoundly; for, thinking of so many cases of men pursuing an illusion for years, often and often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked myself whether I may not have devoted my life to a phantasy. Now I look at it as morally impossible that investigators of truth, like you and Hooker, can be wholly wrong, and therefore I rest in peace." Charles Darwin Edited by Panda, : No reason given. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
KM writes:
It does mean that. So what does this prove, Panda? That some mammals have the ability to conserve energy when resting (hibernating bears, sleeping bats) and that some cold-blooded creatures (sharks and rays) can maximise temperatures to their eyes and brians?But it also means that animals are not completely 'warm-blooded' or 'cold-blooded'. There are different grades of 'warm-bloodedness'. I had hoped that phrases likequote:would have helped you realise that you are going in the wrong direction. You claimed:quote:which was then shown to be falacious. KM writes:
If different species have different degrees of endothermic and ectothermic metabolisms then it is possible to go from 'full warm-blooded' to 'full cold-blooded' without the large jump you claimed was necessary (but impossible).
Metabolic versatility on the part of endotherms and ectotherms does not mean they are on the same scale. KM writes:
It proves you are wrong.
So what does this prove, Panda?
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
taq writes:
Why don't we see both Elephants and Wooly Mammoths? Dawn writes:
This appears to be more of your 'lying for jesus'. Havent we actually found one of these intact frozen in the ice? I suppose when you can produce an intact hommonid frozen in the ice, you will immediately get my attentionWhy are you avoiding the question? Is it too difficult for you to understand?
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Here's an interesting table linked to Shadow71's link.
Something seems wrong with that table, but my biology knowledge is insufficient to be certain.It is just a feeling, so I could easily be wrong.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Thank you.
That gives me something to build more knowledge on.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3739 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
shadow71 writes:
Can you think of anyone else who says that Evolution is true?
the evolutionist such as Jerry Coyne, Dawkins et al. Who arrogantly state Evolution is a fact. shadow71 writes:
So, you agree with 'arrogant' evolutionists. I have already stated my belief that Evolution has and continues to happen.Good for you.
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