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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
RAZD writes: Can you define micro-evolution? Can you define macro-evolution? Can you?
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
RAZD writes: Do you want to discuss those definitions* and see where you agree\disagree and why? Please define macro-evolution for me and maybe we can take it from there?
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
NoNukes writes: Even that minor amount of research is completely unecessary. RAZD presented definitions for both micro and macro-evolution right before asking Big Al for his definitions. Ok...can you tell me what his definition was then?
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Which one is it? And why would you need a definition from me when you have so many available to yourself?
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
RAZD writes: Note that both these types of speciation have been observed in the natural world as well as in the fossil record. Just to clarify can you give me an example of this in the natural world? And furthermore, if it has been observed in the natural world does that mean it must be true?
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Still waiting for that "observed" example or at least a definition of what you mean by observed.
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Percy writes: we have only directly observed macroevolution in very short-lived species, such as bacteria, fruit flies Surely, macro-evolution in bacteria should be referred to as micro-evolution by its very nature?
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Percy writes: we have only directly observed macroevolution in very short-lived species, such as bacteria, fruit flies You might want to check out this link regarding fruit flies ---> Fruit Flies in the Face of Macroevolution | The Institute for Creation Research Edited by Big_Al35, : No reason given.
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Percy writes: "Micro" is a modifier of "evolution", not of "bacteria". "Micro" refers to the degree of evolutionary change, not to the size of the organism. Bacteria can experience a macroevolutionary degree of change. All references to evolution on bacteria are referred to as micro not macro. A simple google search will tell you that. Here is one exampleExamples of microevolution - Understanding Evolution Percy writes: But you seem to be arguing away from the topic. The question is the difference between micro and macroevolution. You seem to want to argue whether macroevolution ever happens. Well there is no point in defining macro-evolution if it doesn't happen.
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Percy writes: A simple Google search of "bacteria macroevolution" returns 148,000 results, and of "bacteria speciation" returns 740,000 results. Perhaps you had a typo when you tried it? Sorry, no typos. Here is another example which illustrates my point that even articles discussing macroevolution in bacteria are unsure about the definition and indicate that it might just aswell be called microevolution. http://carm.org/...ctually-observing-macroevolution-bacteria
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 790 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
Percy writes: Do you have anything to say about the definition of macroevolution? Yes....I will say this: The pursuit of a definition for macroevolution is a waste of my time. Edited by Big_Al35, : No reason given.
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