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Brad McFall
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Message 21 of 224 (6596)
03-11-2002 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Mister Pamboli
03-10-2002 2:51 PM


That communication channels may be tuned resonantly to diverse and not common sender reciever gulfs. Sorry no explaination today. Mr. sir.

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Brad McFall
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Message 41 of 224 (6690)
03-12-2002 12:46 PM
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03-11-2002 2:27 PM


I saw Carl Sagan lecture in AD White HoUse once and I know it was told to Lynn that she had the answer, whatever that means but I do not think much of the mitochondira are beneficial bacteria idea. The point In the cell was that organelles have DETERMINATE positions. Population genetics never said how to understand location for a bunch of egg laying birds so the Poik domain of the small is vexing for me to focus on. There could be something in it but I usually end up thinking of torque I had this prepared on signals hope it helps. Sincerely, Brad
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The equation this answer questions by clarifying qualifers due to reading Cantor if not Wright is
# "Now let three small magnets whose lengths are l1, l2, l3 by ordertypes and ordinal strengths m1, m2, m3, exist at the point x,y,z with their axes parallel to the axes of x,y,z; then resolving the forces on the three magnets cardinally in the direction of X, we have
-X= m
=m
where I am fairly confident (a=radius) -a compared to a is [with{in}] Farday 1792. and 1793. copied below
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Halliday and Slater state - "The recognition of one particular stimulus cannot just be because the sense organs are tuned to this alone."*
but this is just what Faraday said years ago (1792+1793)(Hopkins may think this is an & gate!)
1792. The kind of experiment I am bold enough to suggest is as follows. If a gymnotus or torpedo has been fatigued by frequent exertion of the electric organs, would the sending of currents of similar force to those he emits, or of other degrees of force, either continuously or intermittingly in the same direction as those he sends forth, restore him his powers and strength more rapidly than if he were left to his natural repose?
1793. Would sending currents through in the contrary direction exhaust the animal rapidly? There is, I think, reason to believe the torpedo (and perhaps the gymnotus) is not much disturbed or excited by electric currents sent only through the electric organ; so that these experiments do not appear very difficult to make.
and if the any Mendelian mechanism is a subset of Maxwell's spin on Faraday's electrotonic state not only is the edited sentence in the series false, it is untrue as per the very discussion the editors sought to mediate as the coding or internal state discussed throughout the articles edited.
Has Maxwell's "might be traced with the dialectric itself" ##been done (in sufficient expts by physics to create proper biology at the action and reaction influentially involved) such that the tracing is extensible to any material that may operate in Neo-Mendelism apply for instance Maxwell's also "###"When the muscles of our bodies are excited by that stimulus which we are able in some unknown way to apply to them, the fibers tend to shorten themselves and at the same time to expand latterally. A state of stress is produced in the muscle, and the limb moves. This explaination of muscular action is by no means complete. It gives no account of the cause of the excitment of the state of stress, nor does it even investigate those forces of cohesion which enable the muscles to support this stress. Nevertheless, the simple fact, that it substitutes a kind of action which extends continuously along a material substance for one of which we know only a cause and an effect at a distance from each other, induces us to accept it as a real addition to our knoweldge of animal mechanics
For similar reasons we may regard Farday's conception of a state of stress in the electro-magnetic field as a method of explaining action at a distance by means of the continuous transmission of foce, even though we do not know how the state of stress is produced."??????or is rather Campbell's question determining here "If we recognize that it is untrue we are natraully led to aske whether the physical significance would have been altered if it had been found that KU was numerically, equal not to v^2 but to 2v^2 or 1.5v^2 or 1.5839v^2."[p421 by Norman Robert Cambell FOUNDATIONS OF SCIENCE The Philosophy of Theory and Experiment]
Using EOD waveforms as Mendels traits and taking the physicality of dominance or recessive tribute within the space electrotonic coasts function the physico-chemical funtions are not ignored in the transmission genetics but already a part of the medium that motion may be forced (inertially), displaced, or speeding along at a less than infinite velocity.
Imaginary electricity and imaginary magnetics can be used to probe any position effect that may breed up since the sphereical geometry can be transformed into the linear one as found due to chromosomes and may have expressed the object Maxwell subjectively lamented was missing on account.
Any between behavior and population genetics correlation that could result will be similarly available to a less loose deduction via Maxwell's Four Laws #p206 provided some insight as was for quantitive characters big vs small size factors is in resemblence (if) found (to find) during the course of work on the Power Spectra of the spark the fish make no matter the F1 F2 genetics etc which if physco-chemically supported more easily bridge the reasoning betwwen transmission and physicological genetics Fourier Analysis is expected to be useful here and I am speculating on how to connect Vortex Momemetums to this idea by software development at most but hopefully discountable.
I have asked Carl to breed fish for this genetics work for him and he pleads grant writing while I mentioned the project to Will Provine who continues to not return my calls. Is this the Galileo affair in reverse (in the secular and not Catholic environment?) or have I still the affect effectively beneficial?? Regardless the style though not the content of this argumentation can be re-writ for the ethological field of pheromone communication rather than signal transfer so the author's subjectivty is not what is being discussed differntially between broadcasts and information transmission so I think that Farady's use of describing the Animal (when "or" means any animal thinkable (for fish the case may not be as this general) as willing the signal (in the concepts of nutrition and rest) is as misplaced as Will Provine asserting that Free Will will become a dynamic scientific category as the only final frontier. It is simply a matter of levels of organization that remain integron by integron seperated despite the ability cardinally to access the proper terminology (including equations) and there-through "scientific method".
*(Full Context p.5-6 "Having dealt with the messages encoded in signals and the form of the signals themselves, we move in Chapter 4 to an account of the sensory aspects of communication. Here Hopkins dsicusses how the sense organs and brain deal with incoming signals and extract from them information on such questions as whether or not there really is a signal present amonst all the other stimuli being received and, if there is, which out of all the possible signals it is and where it is coming from In many species, sense organs are used for a variety of purposes, such as the detection of fodd and of predators, as well as for reveiving signals and passing them on to the brain. Appropriate to this, these animals have sense organs which respond to a wide range of stimulu and thus are not especially well matched to any one of them. The recognition of one particular stimulus cannot just be because the sense organs are tuned to this alone. However, in other cases which Hopkins describes, the sense organs are specifically adapted to receive particular stimuli. The tuning of the bullfrog ear to bullfrog calls is one example and another, though perhaps not strictly speaking lying in the realm of communication, is the greatly enlarged eye of many male flies which enables them to detect and pursue females." Animal Behaviour A Series Edited by T R Halliday and P J B Slater 2 Communication 1983 by Blackwell Scientific Publications Ltd)
#p214 all Maxwell refs@# From THE SCIENTIFIC PAPERS OF JAMES CLERK MAXWELL edited by W.D. Niven Dover Publications Inc.
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Brad McFall
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From: Ithaca,NY, USA
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Message 100 of 224 (12491)
07-01-2002 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by Jonathan
07-01-2002 4:59 PM


[QUOTE][b]. Its like a plant that you dont water or fertalize or give enough sunlight to. It usually dies. Why would the very first life forms be any different?[/QUOTE]
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Richard Dawkins does not think that the nervous 'system' is over and above the genetic "system" but I CAN NOT THINK it otherwise so the difference as per question within post herein is that bevhavior is over and above the "better green thumb growth" which if neophenogenesis is true the plants grow by coactions that do not invovle any higher order (level) coations with non plants for the life of the kind. This is not dependent on a created kind definition but on the better resolution of coations in the experience split by gardner not the garden of Eden all though it could be that too.

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